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Post by Darren Masters on Dec 26, 2014 13:50:36 GMT 12
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Post by shorty on Dec 26, 2014 13:59:51 GMT 12
and from stuff; Plane crash off Raglan Beach Last updated 14:29, December 26 2014 Share
A light plane with three people onboard has crashed in the sea off Raglan.
The accident happened at 1.40pm today.
The Piper Cherokee plane crashed about 100m off the popular Waikato beach.
"Raglan Beach was full of holiday-makers so it was fortunate the plane avoided the high density area," police said.
It appeared the plane's engine cut out just after take off and the pilot was attempting to make it back to the airstrip, police said.
Two males and a female were on the plane.
The female suffered serious injuries and was taken to Waikato Hospital by helicopter. The two males were less-seriously injured and taken to hospital in a helicopter.
The plane has now sunk
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 26, 2014 14:54:32 GMT 12
On Radio NZ National's news bulletin at 3pm, they claimed it was a “Cessna” which had crashed.
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Dec 26, 2014 15:40:33 GMT 12
That is definitely a Cherokee.
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Post by shorty on Dec 26, 2014 15:50:48 GMT 12
Leo, can't possibly be a Cherokee, you know very well that ALL light aircraft are Cessna's , ask any media outlet and they will tell you.
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Post by Bruce on Dec 26, 2014 17:41:45 GMT 12
and TVNZ said it plummetted too!
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Post by beagle on Dec 26, 2014 19:05:52 GMT 12
yeah, I love plummeting. wings streaming flames 100's of metres long. the engine making funny noises then stopping.
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Post by Darren Masters on Dec 26, 2014 19:25:25 GMT 12
Witnesses the plane 'hovered' before crashing into the sea. Okay...
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 26, 2014 19:29:22 GMT 12
Witnesses the plane 'hovered' before crashing into the sea. Okay... That's why it “plummeted” — 'cause when you hover a plane, the wings stop holding it up.
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Post by Bruce on Dec 26, 2014 21:37:01 GMT 12
Actually, he landed in about the best spot - he was off 05, which would have given him very little options other than Raglan township. A left turn puts you over the estuary where the water is shallow, and at low tide there is a large sandbank. I think he did pretty well! Its only the media who are speculating he was returning to the airfield...
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Post by rbwannabe on Dec 26, 2014 21:39:56 GMT 12
Unconfirmed, but this may be a well known pilot/engineer/builder and his wife involved in this incident. So please be careful with your comments.
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Post by dakman on Dec 26, 2014 22:35:33 GMT 12
The aircraft is reported to be ZK CNI .
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Post by baronbeeza on Dec 27, 2014 5:40:56 GMT 12
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Post by bounce on Dec 27, 2014 13:43:26 GMT 12
Wow what a photo.
Ditchings are nasty affairs. My past accident research showed that almost all power-loss fatalities resulted from a subsequent loss of control or a ditching. Even when controlled right to the water its roll-the-dice and see what happens.
Glad they survived.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 27, 2014 17:27:58 GMT 12
Actually much more controllable if you are flying a retractable and leave the wheels up.
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Post by bounce on Dec 27, 2014 18:10:42 GMT 12
Indeed. VAC in Foveaux Strait and a Lancair in Pauatahauni Inlet are the only retractable water landings I can think of, neither of which resulted in serious injury from the landing itself.
After talking to a water landing accident survivor it certainly sounds extremely unpleasant. Mainly the trying to survive in the water with serious injuries. It convinced me to always have my lifejacket on when over water, as trying to find it and put it on post impact sounded extremely difficult. Its the takeoff over water that I imagine is the most risky (Raglan, Wellington, Auckland), where time would be most critical. Cruising at 5000ft over the strait (if you can stomach the controlled airspace fee...) gives you some time to prepare, but is the sort of situation most people would have the jacket already strapped on.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 27, 2014 23:23:15 GMT 12
Back in the day, two of us student pilots were at 3000ft in a 172 with WAC instructor Brian Haybittle.
Brian reached over, pulled the power, and handed us a lifejacket each. We then had to set up the aircraft for a forced landing and, at the same time, put on the lifejackets.
It was a good way to demonstrate the difficulties involved in controlling the aircraft while attempting to prepare ourselves for a water landing.
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Post by Bruce on Dec 28, 2014 8:35:10 GMT 12
Agreed -I prefer to wear a life jacket on any flight where the water is going to be the only forced landing option, Even if I'm near the coast. Flying up the Eastern transit lanes past Auckland you may be only a few hundred metres off shore, but you're only at 1000ft and cant put down on land. I have a couple of "constant wear" life jackets that are nice and comfortable to wear and will have them on for any leg with an over water section.
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Post by efliernz on Dec 28, 2014 8:36:38 GMT 12
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