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Post by kiwi on Apr 4, 2015 14:33:29 GMT 12
Have our C-130 been fitted with ski undercarriages for working in Antarctica ? I can find plenty of pictures of American ones on skis but none of ours . Have ours ever had them fitted , even borrowed ones ?
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sfb
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Post by sfb on Apr 4, 2015 16:36:28 GMT 12
Simple answer: no
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Post by xbaggy on Apr 4, 2015 19:13:50 GMT 12
The only concession for landing on the ice is wire impregnated tyres. (Or was n my day)
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chis73
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Post by chis73 on Apr 4, 2015 19:23:47 GMT 12
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Post by kiwi on Apr 5, 2015 7:24:34 GMT 12
Thanks for the replies , which answered my question and then some .
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Post by davidd on Apr 5, 2015 9:31:42 GMT 12
Is that correct about using Sidewinder missiles to boost take offs? I would have thought the standard JATO bottles much more likely, but then I may be completely out of date!
Dave D
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Post by isc on Apr 5, 2015 13:01:48 GMT 12
If you had really wanted to see the effect of Jato, you should have seen the R-4Ds taking off from Taieri around 1957 with 16 bottles, a great cloud of smoke, and staggering off at maximum overload. I also saw the Neptunes, and Albatross leave in a similar fashion, the The SA-16 had to turn back(too much built in head wind). Think I read somewhere that the USAF was phasing out their supply/the use of Jato. Even if the ice goes away all together, they don't need too big a strip if my reading is correct, the USN did tests with a KC-130F, on US Forrestall, at the heaviest load it took 460ft to land, and 745ft to take off, no assistance either way. The nose wheel was modified, and the under wing tanks removed, and anti skid braking fitted, and 40 knots wind over the bow. isc |
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Post by conman on Apr 5, 2015 15:53:14 GMT 12
The accuracy of the article mentioned above seems doubtful, although the modiications to create the LC130 are fairly major , I think the $250m quoted is pretty much out there, divide that number by 10 and I think it would still be generous, I don't believe strapping sidewinders to the side of transport aircraft is a SOP !
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Post by suthg on Apr 5, 2015 17:57:17 GMT 12
I saw a US C-130 taking off from Harewood in 1980 fully JATO, what an angle of climb - impressed. And the wingover/turn at 200ft flat out on the return pass! The big C-141 Starlifter was on show too.
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Post by isc on Apr 5, 2015 20:58:16 GMT 12
The USN gave up on the C-130 as a COD aircraft, and went with the Grumman C-2A. There are a large number of sites on Google about the C-130, the biggest, and heaviest shipboard landing. Sorry getting a bit OT. isc
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Post by bobajob on Apr 7, 2015 20:26:12 GMT 12
I do recall a snippet of information I picked up when working on C130's at Whenuapai back in the 1969/1970 era. I commented to a more experienced techo I was with. Why the wire tyres? Are they for more grip on the Ice. As you would expect the answer was yes. However, they were being used in this case because they were there, and would be wasted if not used before they time expired. Would this be correct?
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