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Post by isc on Jun 15, 2015 22:41:24 GMT 12
60 Air New Zealand engineers to go, as ANZ are looking to have maintainance of heavy aircraft done off shore  isc |
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Post by harvard1041 on Jun 15, 2015 23:29:01 GMT 12
This news just pisses me off ..... I work in MROs ( Maint Repair Organisations ) all over the place - currently in the Lufthansa facility in Manila - along with QANTAS A380s, Virgin Atlantic A340-600s, Lufthansa A340s / A330s; all late & all with quality problems.... and we need more & better maintenance slots; not these 'cheaper' MROs. Air NZ Auckland do a good quality job - competitive in all ways to any I've seen - and this sort of decision just smacks of short term thinking. They should be improving the facility to take in third party work - not farming it out to Singapore or China. Some non-technical bean counter has been drinking too much of the Koolaid....grrrr Link here to an article on some of the bigger players in the MRO market. aviationweek.com/mro/aviation-week-ranks-biggest-airframe-mros |
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Post by isc on Jun 16, 2015 22:21:28 GMT 12
They might live to regret any down grade in maintainance, it won't do ANZs reputation any good when they get a problem. isc
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Post by flyinkiwi on Jun 17, 2015 9:03:30 GMT 12
The problem like with any specialist industry is that when you get rid of it, regaining that level of knowledge and experience takes years. It is cheaper in the long run to retain it.
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Post by baronbeeza on Jun 17, 2015 13:13:12 GMT 12
I have to admit I am not up with the play here. I am only going by media reporting which most here will know have little faith in anyway. www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/69406506/air-new-zealand-maintenance-job-lossesm.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11465519I hate even giving the Herald website a click and feel bad linking to it here. It does however seem to offer a fairly balanced report on the situation. A have worked in Air NZ hangars along with many others. I know it was many years ago but the atmosphere was not good compared to most. I would hope things have improved considerably and quite frankly they could have afforded to have got rid of numbers back then. A large number of the workforce appeared to be just drones, very few had the personal motivation to advance and get licences etc, they would rather just drift along in a job they thought was theirs until retirement. I am sure we all know of guys that have 'worked' there for decades. On the other hand there would be many that always took redundancy and then moved on. Some actually went back to Air NZ to repeat the cycle. The qualified engineers in the gun here may even see this as an opportunity, an excuse to move on. Some however will be petrified and I am guessing will be the unqualified mechanics or tradesmen, indeed the bulk of the workforce. The thing is though that the process workers will be the guys that can change to another employer more easily, any industrial position will be more closely aligned to what they have been doing. It is the qualified engineers that have to pack their bags and then go find another MRO position. Two completely different situations. It is the number of real LAME's that are being affected that I would like to be hearing about. Obviously a downturn in workload is going to be spread across the entire workforce, ironically it will be the tyre fitters and the likes that are least likely to notice a difference. Their workload presumably would remain much the same. Perhaps the company should have seen this coming and attempted to diversify and attract some 3rd party work. Perhaps it is a chance to get rid of some of the deadwood and then take on fresh staff when the situation changes/improves. I don't really know, or care much. I suspect it will be the least employable ones that whinge and manage to find some compliant reporter, at least going by history. |
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Post by jonesy on Jun 17, 2015 14:18:33 GMT 12
Not much incentive for young fellas to get schooled up in the finer arts of aircraft maintenance and expect to stay in NZ. My boy has the option of studying in NZ (via RNZAF) or Uni in Perth. He chose WA as he believes much better employment options once he's qualified.
What an absolute shame the NZ job market has become...
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Post by flyinkiwi on Jun 17, 2015 15:59:52 GMT 12
Not much incentive for young fellas to get schooled up in the finer arts of aircraft maintenance and expect to stay in NZ. My boy has the option of studying in NZ (via RNZAF) or Uni in Perth. He chose WA as he believes much better employment options once he's qualified. What an absolute shame the NZ job market has become... Is your son an Australian citizen? If he's not he might find the job opportunities situation in the West Island no better than over here. Sorry about the thread drift Mods. |
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Post by jonesy on Jun 17, 2015 19:30:01 GMT 12
Not much incentive for young fellas to get schooled up in the finer arts of aircraft maintenance and expect to stay in NZ. My boy has the option of studying in NZ (via RNZAF) or Uni in Perth. He chose WA as he believes much better employment options once he's qualified. What an absolute shame the NZ job market has become... Is your son an Australian citizen? If he's not he might find the job opportunities situation in the West Island no better than over here. Sorry about the thread drift Mods. Nah, we're kiwis living in Perth, and no hope for myself becoming a citizen. He's wanting to do an engineering degree specialising in mechatronics which will give him good opportunities in the future. Best case is he shacks up with an Aussie lass and that way gets the tick. Question though....did any of these guys about to be laid off see this coming and pass by the opportunity to retrain/upskill? I know in my line of work we have to have a plan B, thats the way it is now and youre pretty naive thinking the jobs gonna last. The thought of getting laid off absolutely terrifies me so I really do sympathise with these guys. Guess if youre in a niche market with specialised skills is there much chance to change careers? |
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Post by thelensofhistory on Jun 17, 2015 21:27:57 GMT 12
The problem like with any specialist industry is that when you get rid of it, regaining that level of knowledge and experience takes years. It is cheaper in the long run to retain it. Over the years I have made this to different people concerning the RNZAF "air combat arm". It is always easier to call on a skill set when it is needed then having to recreate it from scratch. |
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