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Post by dewobz on Oct 26, 2015 14:59:05 GMT 12
Hi folks, I've transfered this over from the preservation page where I put it initially.
I'm building OK-1 P3854 over on Kiwimodeller for the Battle of Britain Group Build.
I have limited data available at present but I'll post finished photos on here soon.
I've only got until 31 October to finish the build, which I hope will include a couple of armourers and a Keith Park pilot figure.
I can only find one historical photo of Keith Park standing next to the starboard side of OK-1 with the Codes K-1 visible. To me the codes look smaller than those on other Hurricanes, certainly smaller than those on the replica, and the Codes look White in colour.
Can anyone confirm what size and colour the Codes OK-1 were on the aircraft?
Also, were there two OK-1s or, when references say Keith Park had two personal Hurricanes, do they mean OK-1 and OK-2? Was there another OK-1 serialled N2520?
Appreciate your assistance as always and hopefully I'll have some nice pics of the finished model built using the new tool Airfix kit, which is a really good one.
Cheers
Wally.
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Post by ZacYates on Oct 27, 2015 15:37:45 GMT 12
I can't help with any info but based on how Tom Cleaver has raved about the kit in reviews at Modeling Madness I have no doubt this will be a wonderful build. Good luck in your hunt for info Wally, and I look forward to your build. |
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Post by dewobz on Oct 27, 2015 17:53:38 GMT 12
Thanks Zac, hopefully I'll have some WIP photos tomorrow night, but I'd be very happy to build a 1/32 scale Hurricane with the level of detail in this 1/48 kit and the fit is generally superb. This on top of wonderful accuracy, surface texture and detail.
The revival of Airfix has been one of the great modelling stories of the last few years.
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Post by dewobz on Oct 29, 2015 21:14:59 GMT 12
Here's the exquisitely detailed cockpit and port machine gun bay of Airfix's 1/48 Hurricane just prior to attaching wings to fuselage. It's a real pleasure to build this kit, all OOB with Eduard Seatbelts -  DSCN2529 by Wally Hicks, on Flickr  DSCN2528 by Wally Hicks, on Flickr  DSCN2531 by Wally Hicks, on Flickr  DSCN2533 by Wally Hicks, on Flickr  DSCN2551 by Wally Hicks, on Flickr  DSCN2554 by Wally Hicks, on Flickr I'd still really appreciate any opinions about the size and colour of the Code Letters? Since I've only got til Sunday to enter the BoB GB on kiwimodeller it might ultimately be decided by what I have available, which is 'Sky' or 'Grey', as the only White Codes I have are the post-war lettering. Cheers Wally. |
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Post by ZacYates on Oct 30, 2015 8:05:24 GMT 12
If it's the BoB timeframe I'd lean toward grey(silver?) like the Fighter Command machines of the time.
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Post by dewobz on Nov 5, 2015 23:10:41 GMT 12
Due to the unavailability of correct decals, this build 'morphed' into Hurricane P2725 TM-B of 504 "County of Nottingham" Squadron. I have just now posted it on "Non-RNZAF modelling subjects" along with the extraordinary story of its pilot on 15 Sept 1940, F/Sgt Raymond T Holmes.
Cheers
Wally
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Post by Calum on Nov 9, 2015 14:04:12 GMT 12
Wally, I'd also like to do a Kiwi MK 1 Hurricane, and Keith Parks machine was the one I was thinking off. Can you advise who does the decal sheet for it?
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Post by dewobz on Nov 9, 2015 19:05:52 GMT 12
Hi Calum, as far as I can tell there isn't a specific decal sheet for Hurricane OK-1. I am endeavouring to obtain correct size and shape White Code Letters, which I think were 24" high on his aircraft, rather than the 30" Grey Code letters generally used on Hurricanes. My search so far has led me to Fantasyprintshop on eBay (or their website .co.uk) It appears the project will require buying 1 x 1/48 24" White Code Letters & Numbers RAF WW2 FP886W, which has the correctly shaped 'O' but the wrong 'K'. The correct 'K' can be found on 24" etc RAF 1946 - FP895. Neither of these have the correct '1' with the little 'flick' bit, so I'd probably cobble these together, or there might be a correct '1' on my Berna decals sheet where everything else is wrong and the white density may be different ....!!! The result of my building aircraft for which there are no decal sets has led me to owning large quantities of different Code Letters and Numbers in Sky, Grey, Red, White, Black and Yellow (RAF & US 45degree mostly) so if you ever want any please just ask. www.ebay.com/itm/RAF-Numbers-and-Letters-24-WW11-WHITE-1-48-FP886W-/200404924822?hash=item2ea9107996:m:mUraBMGwOkg4tWtFjEEiXKwI imagine Keith Park's OK-1 will also require a Wing Commander's or Group Captain's pennant, although I can find no evidence of his Hurricane wearing one. There may have even been a special pennant for Air Vice Marshall (if he was that, apologies if he wasn't)? I have found fantasyprintshop decals to be of good quality and I own a bunch of their Codes and Serials. I recently purchased 1/48 15" Black Codes because they equate to 8" Black Serials at 1/24 scale for the Typhoon. Their eBay shipping cost from UK is very reasonable and incredibly quick. Ordered Thursday and received Tues morning in Kohukohu of all places. If you or anyone else comes across a decal set specifically with OK-1 on it, please let me know. I don't have any particular desire to own vast numbers of Code Letter & Number decal sheets. Once again, if you or anyone else want some, like maybe 1/32 48" Sky Codes, which are HUGE, purchased by mistake for the Tiffie, or any size in any scale any colour, especially WW2, ask me first. Cheers Wally. |
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Post by Calum on Nov 10, 2015 14:03:09 GMT 12
HI Wally, thanks for the detailed reply. I'm thinking I may just cut some masks for them. Just need to track down some good images
I've got a heap of codes as well, but as usual never the right bloody one. So, likewise, if you don't have anything PM me as I may be able to help you.
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Post by dewobz on Nov 11, 2015 13:29:06 GMT 12
Calum, thanks. You'll almost certainly hear from me sometime re Code Letters/Numbers.
Historical images of OK-1 appear to be rare indeed. I have only ever found one.
It shows Keith Park standing behind the starboard wing root with only the roundel and 'K1' visible forward of it. So starboard side was O-K1. This gives a good reference to letter/number size and shape. Port side would have been OK-1 I'm almost certain.
All the other images I found were depictions of the Hurricane used in the film 'Battle of Britain' and the Motat monument. Images of his Malta Hurricane OK-2 show a pennant on the port side as might be expected, so I would assume OK-1 had one ...?
Good luck and if you find any other pictures please share them.
Cheers
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Post by Calum on Nov 17, 2015 14:31:46 GMT 12
Yeah that's the only one I've seen as well
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Post by flyjoe180 on Dec 3, 2015 13:33:42 GMT 12
It will be interesting to find out what that symbol was on the starboard side of the cockpit.
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Post by dewobz on Dec 5, 2015 19:56:07 GMT 12
Yes indeed flyjoe180, I was almost hoping you wouldn't mention it.
It looks vaguely like the silhouette of a little dog to me?
There's also an element of 4 leaf clover or something?
Any ideas?
Does anyone know for sure?
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Post by flyjoe180 on Dec 20, 2015 12:54:27 GMT 12
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