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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 28, 2017 11:12:21 GMT 12
Ruddy Photobucket have found a way around the two Chrome extensions and all the photos they're hosting have disappeared again. Damn it is so frustrating. I hope the extension whizzes can find a new solution to make them viewable again.
I'm surprised no-one has sued Photobucket for breach of contract, they offered free service to host photos, we accepted, and they have now breached that.
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Post by baz62 on Dec 28, 2017 11:14:56 GMT 12
Fingers crossed! I wondered that when I was on the Flypast Forum yesterday but of course the other photos that did work were on another site. Swines.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 28, 2017 17:55:58 GMT 12
The problem with sites like Photobucket is that if too many people use free accounts, they eventually end up losing money and the result is that they either fall over or else they do what Photobucket did.
Now that heaps of people have migrated from Photobucket to Flickr, no doubt all opening free accounts, I reckon the same thing will happen there eventually.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 28, 2017 22:20:09 GMT 12
Just a few weeks ago Photobucket tried to terminate my paid account as at the end of November.
I responded, and pointed out they I had already paid for that account for 12 months up to next May.
They backed down.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 29, 2017 12:08:00 GMT 12
Oddly Peter, some of the forum banners hosted on your PB account have vanished in the past few days, despite you being paid up.
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Post by denysjones on Dec 29, 2017 20:06:24 GMT 12
The Firefox extension is still working at this time Dave
However in my opinion the bottom line is that the old "no free lunches" applies and so if people want their images to appear online then they need to be prepared to stand some cost of so doing.
There's also a corollary to it that people with his-res cameras etc should think about their image sizes and the storage consequences of that no matter where they end up being stored/hosted.
Servers and disc cost $ and so does the power to run them and house and cool them and back them up (imagine the outcries if something went down and could not be recovered). It's well reported that Google are struggling to make a business case for Youtube unless they can convince advertisers of the payback for advertising with it also note the consequences of Dotcomm's empire demise of old.
Call me old fashioned (40 years in the IT industry) but I far prefer to have my data somewhere in my control where I back it up and am happy to share it from there.
I agree with the comment above that Flickr may well be forced one day to follow PB's line. That's why I've been trying to get GoogleDrive, which I use for other purposes and hence am happy to continue with,
to work with the forums but it simply doesn't obey the documentation.
I'm sorry to say but I think there has been a marked drop off in forum activity since the PB switch so I think there is a need to rethink the approach to the issue but I'm afraid other people may have already flown the coop so to speak. I especially note the marked dropoff of posts in the modelling section where of course there used to be heaps.
Not sure what the answer is but am afraid to suggest that it appears lots of people were happy to be here when it was for nix but now it's gone too hard they've gone.
cheers
Denys
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 29, 2017 20:17:01 GMT 12
Yes, there has been a marked drop in the number of people posting airshow photos too, I've noticed, which is a shame. From my own end that is because I did not get to many airshows, only Classic Fighters (which I posted heaps from) and the Ohakea Air Tattoo (which I bloody well forgot to take my camera to!).
The drop in activity is a combination of the Photobucket issue, and the eclipsing of forums by Facebook. Whatever happens though, the forum will continue on and will be a friendly community and a hub for the aviation scene as long as it is wanted. There may be less people posting photos but the actual viewing traffic (visitors to the site in the last 24 hours) has not dropped off too much when you look at the figures, so people are still reading. And that often goes up and down a little depending what is happening in the aviation world.
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Post by suthg on Dec 29, 2017 20:50:06 GMT 12
I have a paid subscription to Flickr for whatever reason, and i could load 30 photos per day I think but I have only done that once, or close to 30. I'm not sure what the fee is.
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Post by denysjones on Dec 30, 2017 19:55:45 GMT 12
That's good news in a way Dave, especially seeing a news article I read today about legal things being raised about social media sites perhaps normality will return.
It seems some of us will have to continue pushing the physical side of restoration and then posting here...new years resolution...finish grovelling F27 undercarriage bay, get centre section back on aircraft, get control column cables and sprockets in Hudson etc etc and resolve image linking to forum, no sweat done by end of Jan!
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Post by apronbrat on Dec 31, 2017 11:00:16 GMT 12
Thanks for the explanation, I was wondering what I was doing wrong .
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 3, 2018 13:32:01 GMT 12
I have just received an email from Photobucket offering me a new premium account for the same annual price as the current paid-up account I have had with them from about three years ago when I upgraded to a paid account to stop running into the free account bandwidth limitation wall every month.
They have offered me unlimited bandwidth including for third-party hosting at messageboard forums, blogs and personal websites, so long as it isn't used for commercial purposes.
Comparing prices with a similar premium account at Flickr, Photobucket is offering a cheaper deal.
I've got until my current subscription expires in a couple of months time to decide whether or not to accept their offer.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 3, 2018 16:59:25 GMT 12
Hopefully I'll get the same offer.
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Post by chbessexboy on Jan 7, 2018 16:28:33 GMT 12
Having read the above and decided to stick with Photobucket and pay for it, I discovered they want $399.99 a year - and I'm not even sure what currency that is. Either way it is much too expensive for me in order to share a few photos.
I realise there is "no free lunch" but this seems exorbitant!
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 7, 2018 20:55:28 GMT 12
That's the commercial price.
They offered me a considerably cheaper rate (a quarter of that) for unlimited third-party hosting bandwidth (for posting images to blogs, messageboard forums and private websites) provided it was non commercial. It is actually the same rate as my current paid account with them which runs out in a couple of months time. I have until then to make up my mind whether to accept their offer.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 10, 2018 14:45:11 GMT 12
Most of the things that were not showing a few weeks back when I started this thread are now showing again. Weird how it continues to fluctuate, somewhere behind the scenes there is a technology war raging I think.
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Post by camtech on Jan 10, 2018 19:01:15 GMT 12
I've noticed that before, Dave. One day some images are gone, next day back again.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 24, 2018 11:24:57 GMT 12
I have just received an email from Photobucket offering me a new premium account for the same annual price as the current paid-up account I have had with them from about three years ago when I upgraded to a paid account to stop running into the free account bandwidth limitation wall every month. They have offered me unlimited bandwidth including for third-party hosting at messageboard forums, blogs and personal websites, so long as it isn't used for commercial purposes. Comparing prices with a similar premium account at Flickr, Photobucket is offering a cheaper deal. I've got until my current subscription expires in a couple of months time to decide whether or not to accept their offer. Hopefully I'll get the same offer. Peter, the plan I was offered is now shown on Photobucket's website (prior to a couple of days ago, you could only access it via a secure link from an email). CLICK HERE and a page should open showing you a link. The premium plan is the one. |
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Post by ErrolC on Jan 24, 2018 12:48:25 GMT 12
It's a tough sell against what Flickr gives you for USD50, but still a price point that would have got them a noticeable number of takers if available when they did the big change IMO. |
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 24, 2018 18:51:35 GMT 12
Wait until all the people who have free accounts at Flickr push them into the same situation as PhotoBucket, then see what happens.
The problem is that too many people think everything is a free lunch when it comes to online stuff.
That's why I took out a paid account at PhotoBucket a few years ago, and it gave me unlimited bandwidth too.
So many people have migrated from free accounts at PhotoBucket to free accounts at Flickr that it will only be a matter of time before cost realities hit at Flickr.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 28, 2018 9:32:06 GMT 12
Yes I got this Photobucket offer too.
The ability to link photos to non-commercial websites and also the larger amount of storage. Works out at NZ$133 for 12 months.
Doesn't seem to be much different to the paid account that I had before all this grief struck.
Anyway, I have paid up, we'll see how it goes.
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