AME Air Law exams

[miro]

Hello Everyone,



In near future I will face written and oral Air Law exams regards AME licencing.

I wonder if there is LAME, on this forum, who have recent experience with mentioned exams with ASL, and who would be kind to share his experience with us, please?

Best regards

Miro

[shorty]

Sorry, it's 37 years since I did them and to make it more awkward I was in the Air Force at the time

[nuuumannn]

Written or oral? both exams are open book; it's as much about how well you can wade through the manuals as much as what you know. Obviously possessing a basic knowledge of CARs etc is a necessity, but negotiating your way through the paperwork is key to breaching that 70% pass mark. Good luck, Miro.

[noooby]

I found the written exam the easiest one of all the AME exams. They tell you which parts you need to bring with you to the exam. I had tabs stuck all through my notes, with a one word reminder on what the tab was marking. Different coloured tabs for each part (Part 21 blue, Part 43 red for instance). First tab would be the first page of the Part and would just have the Part number on it, so I could quickly go to Part 66 for instance and then use the tabs on that Part to find the relevant info.
Get to the exam EARLY and grab a couple of desks so that you can lay your notes out. From memory it is only 90 minutes, so work fast!

The oral was a whole different story! I did a prep course run down Hamilton way. Without that course I would have flunked. I screwed up the first question of the oral, so was informed that I would be questioned on every aspect of the subject that I screwed up to satisfy the examiner that it was just one area that I wasn't up to speed with and then we would move on to the rest of the exam. FIVE HOURS LATER, I was finishing up. Holy cow that was a tough one.

[miro]

Thank you people for your answers and good wishes.
Currently I am preparing the written exam with the NMIT and think I am ready for it. I have all necessary Parts, AC and AD printed and have proper tabs and most important is that I am not scared of the exam.
The oral exam is making me very nervous. I still do not have complete mental picture of all relations between Rules and I have no idea how long is fine to search for answer in Rules before examiner becomes suspicious...
Unfortunately, internet sources are so poor and NZCAR are different than rules from other ICAO countries.
And most scary of all is that English is not my mother tongue...
Cheers

[noooby]

NZ, EASA and FAA rules are pretty much along the same lines. Especially NZ and EASA. Most of the Parts should be the same numbering. Quite logical, unlike Canada and what Australia used to have.

Parts are what you have to do. AC's are how to do it! Kind of. Lol.

You'll be fine.

[Bruce]

I do the Sport aircraft Association training courses for Part 66 Maintenance approvals, which has a special exam not too different from AME law. It was an online exam, and you are supposed to look up the correct answers from the rules and ACs. The key things are understanding the structure of the rules: Part 91, Part 43, Part 61 etc. Part 1 is an important one with the legal definitions - always check this as there will most likely be some questions based on correct definitions! read the questions carefully and double check the definitions of any unusual phrase used. Use the indexes of each rule to find the appropriate sections. Read those sections carefully and follow references to any other rules as quoted. Remember Rules are the legal requirement, ACs are just an advisory of one acceptable means of compliance, therefore of there is an apparent variation between a rule and an AC, the Rule take precedence.

[miro]

Thank you for your advice and encouragement. They are very useful.
I came from a certain environment controlled by EASA, but I have the feeling that my previous knowledge disturbs my learning a bit.
I ignored Part1 and used it only for the meaning of abbreviations. Definitely it is more important.
I really appreciate your help.
Cheers

[mershon35]

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[185skywagon]

Where does one get the appropriate study material for the ame written exams in nz ? Are there any books written which cover each exam, similar to the pilot exams ?

[baronbeeza]

It has been a long time for me also Ben. Most countries seem to use the A&P training books, General, Airframe and Engines. The FAA exams allow practice books and they are updated every two years I believe, 1000 questions and answers from memory............. www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aircraft/amt_airframe_handbook/

[185skywagon]

Thanks Kevin