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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 14, 2018 13:43:39 GMT 12
Waiouru helicopter crash: Two men critically injured, another has serious injuriesA helicopter carrying five people has crashed about 35km northeast of Waiouru this morning, injuring three people. Source: 1 NEWS The Civil Aviation Authority confirmed to 1 NEWS the helicopter crashed just before 9am today. A spokesperson from Transport Accident Investigation Commission has confirmed to 1 NEWS five people were on board including the pilot. Two men, both aged in their 40s are in a critical condition, Hawke's Bay District Health Board has confirmed to 1 NEWS. Anther man, aged in his 30s is in a serious condition. Two other men were assessed by St John upon arrival at Bridge Pa airport by rescue helicopter and did not require hospital treatment. The CAA is sending three investigators to the scene this afternoon. 1 NEWS understands the Defence Minister has been informed by NZDF that the helicopter is not one of their aircrafts. The crash occurred at Ngamatea Station in the Kaweka Ranges. www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/waiouru-helicopter-crash-two-men-critically-injured-another-has-serious-injuries
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Post by delticman on Jun 14, 2018 14:08:22 GMT 12
Waiouru helicopter crash: Two men critically injured, another has serious injuriesA helicopter carrying five people has crashed about 35km northeast of Waiouru this morning, injuring three people. Source: 1 NEWS The Civil Aviation Authority confirmed to 1 NEWS the helicopter crashed just before 9am today. A spokesperson from Transport Accident Investigation Commission has confirmed to 1 NEWS five people were on board including the pilot. Two men, both aged in their 40s are in a critical condition, Hawke's Bay District Health Board has confirmed to 1 NEWS. Anther man, aged in his 30s is in a serious condition. Two other men were assessed by St John upon arrival at Bridge Pa airport by rescue helicopter and did not require hospital treatment. The CAA is sending three investigators to the scene this afternoon. 1 NEWS understands the Defence Minister has been informed by NZDF that the helicopter is not one of their aircrafts. The crash occurred at Ngamatea Station in the Kaweka Ranges. www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/waiouru-helicopter-crash-two-men-critically-injured-another-has-serious-injuries There is that word again.........................aircrafts. Is it an NZDF word. |
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Post by tbf25o4 on Jun 14, 2018 14:21:01 GMT 12
At least they didn't call it a "chopper"
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Post by jp on Jun 14, 2018 15:37:43 GMT 12
If we are correcting grammar, "Is it an NZDF word." should be followed by a question mark....
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Post by delticman on Jun 14, 2018 16:20:34 GMT 12
If we are correcting grammar, "Is it an NZDF word." should be followed by a question mark.... Ok.................? I would really like to know where this word came from, not NZDF but aircrafts, just seems strange to me. |
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Post by jp on Jun 14, 2018 16:31:43 GMT 12
Aircrafts is incorrect, but like anything, if it gets used enough, it will gain acceptance.....
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Post by baronbeeza on Jun 14, 2018 17:00:45 GMT 12
Aircrafts is incorrect, but like anything, if it gets used enough, it will gain acceptance..... I suspect your right |
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Post by planewriting on Jun 14, 2018 17:15:40 GMT 12
An ellipsis, which is the use of dots as above, officially comprises only 3 dots.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jun 14, 2018 18:46:57 GMT 12
Mind you, a lot of news media, American media in particular, regularly use an ellipsis followed immediately by a full stop.
I subscribe to three American newspapers, so I get to see a lot of that.
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Post by jp on Jun 14, 2018 19:06:21 GMT 12
I'm trying to use 4 dots often enough for it to gain acceptance....
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Post by delticman on Jun 14, 2018 19:36:23 GMT 12
Aircrafts is incorrect, but like anything, if it gets used enough, it will gain acceptance..... Thought I'd google it and found this. Perhaps the 5590 forum members; the 6 staff, 86 members and 1062 guests in the last 24 hours might like to send it to the media: I came along this sentence: Today, we have used a large number of assets, comprising of 34 aircraft, 40 ships, hundreds of men, thousands of man-hours has been deployed I consulted dictionaries and forum threads that explained that aircraft, just like sheep, builds its plural without an -s. For sheep, however, that can be explained by its evolution from an old word. Not so for aircraft, which is a relatively new word with no such legacy. I found it stated that it is simply a concatenation of air and craft. I found this post about the possible increasing usage of aircrafts (probably among non-native speakers), but it didn't explain the etymology and I found nothing else to explain it. So, what is the explanation for the plural of aircraft not being aircrafts? Does it come from craft used as a mass noun? If so, what would be the meaning conveyed by that |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 14, 2018 19:49:01 GMT 12
OK, can we please end the English class and focus on the news that five poor people have been injured in a helicopter crash? Two if them seriously. Not good.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 15, 2018 8:06:09 GMT 12
One man critical in ICU after chopper with five on board crashes near WaiouruKAROLINE TUCKEY AND MATT STEWART Last updated 17:35, June 14 2018  The Lowe Corporation Rescue Helicopter Service along with Palmerston North Rescue Helicopter and Greenlea Rescue Helicopter responded to Ngamatea Station in the Kaweka Ranges to a helicopter crash on Thursday morning. One man in his 40s is in a critical condition after a commercial helicopter with five men on board crashed near Waiouru. Another man in his 30s is in a serious condition while a third man in his 30s is in a serious but stable condition. Two other men were assessed by St John Ambulance paramedics after they were flown by rescue helicopter to Hastings' Bridge Pa airport but did not need hospital treatment. The crash happened shortly before 9am on Thursday on private land in the Kaweka Ranges – about 35 kilometres northeast of Waiouru. A distress beacon from the helicopter put the location of the crash at the Oturua Stream, search and rescue mission co-ordinator Dave Wilson said. The helicopter had been doing a commercial survey operation in the area, and another helicopter from the same company was able to reach the scene quickly, to report on what had happened, before the first rescue crews arrived, he said. The helicopter went down in steep hilly and tussock-clad land, a long way from roads, said Palmerston North Rescue Helicopter pilot Lance Burns, who flew one of the injured men to hospital. Rescue helicopters from Taupo and Hastings also went to the scene and each flew one injured man. All three were taken to Hawke's Bay Hospital in Hastings. Two other men from the crash were picked up from the scene by another helicopter owned by the company that the crashed helicopter belongs to. A spokesman for the Transport Accident Investigation Commission said three investigators had been sent to the crash site and were due to arrive on Friday morning. Chief investigator of accidents Captain Tim Burfoot said the crash involved a Hughes MD600N helicopter. "The helicopter was on a commercial operation with five people on board when it crashed," he said. The helicopter had been extensively damaged. Lakeview Helicopters pilot Brad Williams, who operates commercial and tourist flights from Taupo, said those involved in the industry were keeping in contact and were anxious to find out what had happened. "It's a bit of a close community, the aviation community – it's supportive. I've had a few phone calls in the last hour. "In this region they are all very experienced pilots – they know how to deal with things. It's unfortunate." www.stuff.co.nz/national/104713580/one-man-critical-in-icu-after-chopper-with-five-on-board-crashes-near-waiouru
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Post by Brett on Jun 15, 2018 13:55:55 GMT 12
The crash victim in ICU has died. He was Renata 'Ren' Apatu, who was a co-owner of the Ngamatea Station where the crash occurred.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 15, 2018 14:08:24 GMT 12
 Very sad to hear that. RIP. |
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Post by TS on Jun 15, 2018 14:12:28 GMT 12
At least they didn't call it a "chopper" Spoke to soon... They are now. |
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Post by oj on Jun 15, 2018 20:46:29 GMT 12
It might have been shown out of context but there was a picture of the entire main transmission gearbox completely separate from the other wreckage. Could this have been a catastrophic mechanical failure or do you think it was severed from the rest as a result of impact?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 30, 2021 16:18:24 GMT 12
Helicopter pilot involved in fatal crash 'lacked training'30 Jun, 2021 03:26 PM /cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/POQZYINFN56AFJBHAS3YYKMU34.jpg) A helicopter crashed, killing one person and injuring four others, in the Kaimanawa Ranges in 2018. Photo / Supplied RNZ By RNZ An investigation into a fatal 2018 helicopter crash has found the pilot lacked training and there was a mystery fuel control fault. The aircraft, owned by Helicopter Hawke's Bay, was surveying crops on Ngāmatea station in the Kaimanawa Ranges when it crashed and one person died on June 14, 2018. Two people, including the pilot, were seriously injured, while two other passengers suffered minor injuries. The Transport Accident Investigation Commission found the helicopter's engine control unit had detected faults and automatically switched to a backup mode with fixed fuel flow. When the pilot tried to get more power, the engine did not respond. The pilot made an emergency landing, but the helicopter struck the ground heavily, became airborne again, and hit the ground again. The helicopter remained upright with the engine driving a broken main rotor, which caused severe shaking. An unknown fault caused the automated system that controlled engine power to fail, the commission said. The fault was intermittent, so although it had occurred before, the company was unable to rectify it. The commission called for improvements in pilot training, so pilots were more prepared to deal with the risks presented by particular helicopters. "The way to deal with this sort of engine control unit failure was for the pilot to switch to manual throttle," said the commission's chief accident investigator, Harald Hendel. "The manufacturer's formal training includes flying with manual throttle, but the pilot did not receive such training in New Zealand, so it's likely the pilot misunderstood manual mode and emergency procedures and was reluctant to select manual mode." The commission also recommended promoting awareness of the benefits of people wearing helmets in some aircraft. No one onboard wore helmets, probably because the operator did not have a formal policy on it, the report said. Since the accident, the company has implemented a policy for pilots to wear helmets on all flights. - RNZ
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Very sad to hear that. RIP.
