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Post by aircraftclocks on Jun 15, 2018 11:32:07 GMT 12
Just seen a passenger manifest for NZ5904, which flew from Singapore to NZ via Broome on 30 July 1960. No doubt there would have been another stop on the East coast before crossing the ditch.
Was this the usual route taken?
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Post by tbf25o4 on Jun 15, 2018 13:31:07 GMT 12
There were a variety of routes and stops used, southbound before confrontation, Changi-Bali-Darwin/Broome-Mt Isa-Amberley-Norfolk-Whenuapai was one of the usual routes during confrontation Indonesia had to be flown around. A typical flight in 1966 to change over a freighter (flown by Bill Cranfield) was: Whenuapai-Vila-Honiara-Wewak-Zamboanga-Changi with the returning aircraft coming via Changi-Butterworth-Cocos-Perth-Melbourne-Whenuapai
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Post by beagle on Jun 15, 2018 13:36:49 GMT 12
so how many hours would a per-mel or mel-wp take normally
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Post by tbf25o4 on Jun 16, 2018 16:14:21 GMT 12
going by the flight manual for the B170 the ranges/fuel burn are:
Freighter fuel capacity 2049 US gallons
Pearce - Essendon (Melbourne) distance 1547nm fuel burn 1520.9 US Gal Time 11 hours 28 minutes TAS 133
Essendon - NZWP distance 1414nm (direct) fuel burn 1399.4 gal time 10 hours 33 minutes
Based on the assumption that as a change over aircraft it would only carry the four crew and minimum freight
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Post by beagle on Jun 18, 2018 18:03:52 GMT 12
So on a nice day, they could with just crew, be able to stretch a flight out to 15 hours. Any idea on what has been the longest flight ?
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Post by tbf25o4 on Jun 19, 2018 13:23:59 GMT 12
I can recall one of the pilots telling me that in confrontation they did a 13 hour flight around the top of Indonesia on the way to singapore, and it was all hand flown as the auto-pilot was U/S
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 19, 2018 13:46:26 GMT 12
Blimey, that is a long flight in a twin-engined aircraft!
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jun 19, 2018 19:24:41 GMT 12
A bloody long flight sitting between those two Bristol Hercules engines.
I seriously love the sound of those powerplants, but 13 hours were be a bit hard on the system.
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Post by camtech on Jun 19, 2018 21:15:34 GMT 12
6 hours was enough Norfolk Is to Amberley.
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Post by camtech on Jun 20, 2018 10:14:55 GMT 12
6 hours was enough Norfolk Is to Amberley. Actually, in context: 4 hours Whenuapai to Norfolk, refuel, then 6 hours to Amberley. Climbed onto one of our Hercs there and flew to Townsville for 5 Sqdn exercise. About 10 days later, repeat the exercise in reverse, only difference being generator failure on taxi out at Norfolk, not allowed to fly at night on one generator, so overnight Norfolk Is. Went through Norfolk 14 or 15 times, but that was the only night spent there.
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