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Post by 30sqnatc on May 25, 2023 19:52:41 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 25, 2023 20:47:01 GMT 12
The Army loves to buy ugly trucks.
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Post by 30sqnatc on May 25, 2023 20:54:10 GMT 12
Ugly? I think the term is utilitarian. Only thought beautiful by the designer and his/her mum
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 25, 2023 20:56:19 GMT 12
I'll bet his Mum was lying, for his sake.
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Post by Mustang51 on May 26, 2023 7:30:00 GMT 12
The Ukrainians seem to like them very much.....and in anger not sitting in a stores shed, so they must have something going for them
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Post by retiredav8r on May 26, 2023 15:10:43 GMT 12
If they purchased and designed military vehicles to look pretty we would be replacing fleets every year or less
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Post by 11SQNLDR on May 28, 2023 12:35:16 GMT 12
They are great pieces of kit, unlike the ugly Pinzgauer. Still no buyers for any of the 100+ LAV's? Great buy Aunty Helen, worth losing the Strike Wing for these white elephants  |
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Post by 30sqnatc on May 28, 2023 15:58:14 GMT 12
They are great pieces of kit, unlike the ugly Pinzgauer. Still no buyers for the 100+ LAV's? Great buy Aunty Helen, worth losing the Strike Wing for these white elephants White elephants indeed. The LAVS have been deployed on two overseas missions and saved Kiwi soldiers lives. Thats twice more than the strike force  As to the sale, you need to keep up with the news. www.nzdf.mil.nz/media-centre/news/twenty-two-light-armoured-vehicles-sold-to-chilean-navy/ |
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Post by machina on May 28, 2023 16:29:42 GMT 12
12 should be retained (6 in each island), polished up and assigned purely to recruitment, doing the rounds to all schools and appropriate events, alongside the NH-90s if there’s space to land.
Glad we’ve got the bushmasters.
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Post by nighthawknz on May 28, 2023 20:07:05 GMT 12
Still no buyers for the 100+ LAV's? Great buy Aunty Helen, worth losing the Strike Wing for these white elephants Didn't know we were selling 100+ of our LAV's thought it was only around 20-30 and... oh we sold 22 of them to Chile. |
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Post by 30sqnatc on May 28, 2023 21:12:50 GMT 12
I think some may misunderstand, a Bushmaster cannot undertake the role of the NZLAV. The capabilities are complimentary but they are quite different. Similarly 12 LAV does not provide the government with an operational light armoured capability.
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Post by 11SQNLDR on May 29, 2023 12:33:38 GMT 12
Still no buyers for the 100+ LAV's? Great buy Aunty Helen, worth losing the Strike Wing for these white elephants Didn't know we were selling 100+ of our LAV's thought it was only around 20-30 and... oh we sold 22 of them to Chile. Oh that's great - 22 sold after 10 years of trying  |
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Post by 30sqnatc on May 29, 2023 17:30:35 GMT 12
Oh that's great - 22 sold after 10 years of trying You clearly have no ideal of what was offered for sale |
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Post by pepe on May 29, 2023 18:43:51 GMT 12
Didn't know we were selling 100+ of our LAV's thought it was only around 20-30 and... oh we sold 22 of them to Chile. Oh that's great - 22 sold after 10 years of trying There was never any plan to sell 100+ NZLAVS. In 2012 20 units were determined to be surplus to requirements and offered for sale. This number was increased to 30 vehicles in 2019. As has previously been stated the Chileans have purchased 22 units which means 8 are still on the market. www.nzdf.mil.nz/media-centre/news/twenty-two-light-armoured-vehicles-sold-to-chilean-navy/ |
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Post by 11SQNLDR on May 30, 2023 11:22:34 GMT 12
Oh that's great - 22 sold after 10 years of trying You clearly have no ideal of what was offered for sale Actually I do. 20 then 10 at a later date as re-iterated by the poster above. Never an intention to sell the full compliment.  |
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Post by snafu on Aug 18, 2023 12:53:59 GMT 12
The Army loves to buy ugly trucks. Yep, they certainly do that included the new MAN trucks, but they are built for a role not looks, But the ADF use Auscam which breaks up the outline abit more than the Kiwi colours. Have always wondered why NZ does not use a disruptive colour scheme on its vehicles. The NZ Bushmasters are not replicas of the ADF Bushmasters. A different hull which has front crew doors and I believe they are slightly longer and higher more head room than the ADF version, no spare tyre either. higher axel loading more payload. I also understand that because of the steel used it offers a higher level of balistic protection than does the NZLAV which was a bonus when they tested it, it's why the nomenclature went from IMV (infantry mobility vehicle) to PMV (Protected Mobility Vehicle) Protection Ballistic exceeds STANAG 4569 level 1- standard up to STANAG 4569 level 3 - option FSP up to STANAG 4569 level 5 - option IED high level of protection from monocoque hull - standard Mine exceeds STANAG 4569 level 3 - standard Spaw liner option Wonder if NZG will get Hawkie in the PMV-L role |
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Post by 30sqnatc on Aug 19, 2023 11:07:46 GMT 12
Only if you believe Wikipedia. You have also mixed up ASLAV and NZLAV. They are very different vehicles!
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Post by snafu on Aug 19, 2023 12:33:45 GMT 12
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