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Post by Bruce on Aug 6, 2007 22:47:05 GMT 12
just announced today are plans for a special vigil to show solidarity a disgust at the current spate of child abuse cases. at 12.12pm on this Wednesday the entire country is being encouraged to make a stand by stopping what they are doing, stop your car, go outside your place of work , shops etc, and stand in silence for 3 minutes. It probably wont make any difference to the child abusrs but as a country we can show that the lives of our children are important.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 7, 2007 2:11:06 GMT 12
I might be missing something simple here but why 12:12pm?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 7, 2007 2:39:44 GMT 12
So the three minutes you waste is in your lunch hour rather than on work's time??? Government thinking dear boy.
I cannot see the point in this venture. Sure, it's dreadful that kids are being tortured and beaten, (or anyone for that matter) but what is this going to do about it? Nothing.
Those people who beat their kids are not going to suddenly stop if the whole country takes a three minute break. Just like they're not going to stop because Sue Bradford said so with her pathetic smacking bill.
The way I see it is politicians and liberty groups have no idea how to stop it, and how can they? It's a few individuals perpertrating under different sets of circumstances from case to case. Sometimes drugs is involved, sometimes alcohol, sometimes cultural environment. Sometimes mental health issues. Often it's a heat of the moment action I guess too, maybe they're great parents in normal circumstances but something makes them snap. There's a raft of different factors that seperate each case. No single solution will stop it ever happening I'm afraid.
Some pointless campaign like this will be just that, pointless. More's the pity.
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Post by corsair67 on Aug 7, 2007 11:40:33 GMT 12
Silence won't change things, but yelling very loudly at the Politicians and Judiciary might get some action! Hell, people being silent has caused a lot of these child abuse problems, with families afraid and/or unwilling to take a stand against other family members who are the perpertrators of violence against children! Too many children are brought into the world for the wrong reasons, and often end up living a childhood of absolute hell because they're aren't seen as human beings, but just another way of gaining a sum of welfare money from WINZ.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Aug 7, 2007 14:13:38 GMT 12
I agree, it's a society problem and the way people are brought up. BTW I do not class child abuse as a smack for being naughty, so before you get any grand ideas Bradford, abuse is the extreme treatment of children and not guidance through reasonable disciplining .
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 7, 2007 22:35:07 GMT 12
There was a very interesting and frank discussion on national radio this afternoon. You can listen to it here - I recommend you listen to both sequences called The Panel (Part 1 and Part 2) in which Jim Mora discussed the problems of child abuse with guests Graham Bell (the former top detective) and Julia Hartley Moore, and experts www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoonsI recommend both parts because even though they discuss a few unrelated topics after the first section on child abuse, they come back to the topic. And boy oh boy does Graham Bell offer some home truths. Well worth a listen.
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