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Post by kiwichappers on Jan 17, 2010 22:20:57 GMT 12
Now then Chaps. Here a picture I found of Brown 5 in a copy of 'Scale Aircraft Modelling Colours - Combat Colours Number 1 - The Messerschnitt Bf 190E on the Western Front 1940. by Peter Scott and Neil Robinson. The caption credits the photo to the Dominion and claims the photo was taken in Wellington.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 17, 2010 23:25:18 GMT 12
It very much looks like the building site location mentioned by jenks/Fedden.
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Post by allok on Jan 18, 2010 5:49:38 GMT 12
Also looks like it's painted in standard Luftwaffe colours for the time of RLM 02, RLM 71 upper surfaces and RLM 65 underneath with a high demarcation and feild applied mottle (With a sponge).
Looks like all the yellow (RLM 04) bits have been swiped and you can't see the tail but the colour scheme is probably very similar to Josef Prillers " Yellow 1".
Great picture.
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Post by kiwichappers on Jan 18, 2010 6:54:43 GMT 12
Allok, I agree with your views on the fuselage and rudder colours. Certainly most of the pictures I have seen of JG51 machines during the Battle of Britain period suggest the rudders were yellow. As for the colour of the nose that becomes somewhat of a best guess for this machine as there seems to be quite a lot of variation within JG51. I am going with a yellow nose to the engine covers which in effect for this model only involves the undertray beneath the engine.
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Post by Bruce on Jan 18, 2010 7:20:29 GMT 12
great photos guys, the only pity is they now make my model inaccurate... oh well, you get that...
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Post by dakman on Jan 18, 2010 8:02:26 GMT 12
Great work on the models and settings guys not a model man myself but did work on a minicab homebuilt awhile ago . Just like a big model . Had also attended a few meetings of the AHSNZ in wellington and the detail colours and workmanship was superb Think the guy talking about the109 was Snow Fenn He was a keen german aircraft man .wonder if he is still with us
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 25, 2010 12:52:09 GMT 12
Yes, that is Seddon "Snow" Fenn as I mentioned earlier in the thread, not Snow Fedden. It is really down to him why so much of the history of this aiorcraft has been preserved over the years.
Snow was S.J.C. Fenn and lived in Lower Hutt, and his name still appears in the white pages. He was in the wartime RNZAF himself so must be getting to a fair age now, if he's still alive (that may be his wife Rosalie in the listing as some widows still use the man's initials for some reason).
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Post by dakman on Jan 25, 2010 20:08:00 GMT 12
hi dave re Snow Fenn am sure he lived in Wainoimata at one stage He convened a german aircraft group as Gruppe 66 to foster interest in German aviation , but do not know how succesful it was ,he was always a great person to chat to at the end of our ahsnz meetings and probably an aeromodely too We used to give him a lot of cheeck about him driving a Lada car he had a good memory of events and aircraft . when he was in service . Am sure Snow Would have kept lots of files too
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 25, 2010 20:26:24 GMT 12
Snow Fenn He was a keen german aircraft man .wonder if he is still with us I met him at the non-flying WW1 event at Hood late last year.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 26, 2010 9:43:53 GMT 12
My Dad got to know him in about 1976 when Dad was the President of NZMAA (the New Zealand Model Aircraft Association). He and Dad corresponded for many years via letters and audio tapes. He was a very precise, almost pedantic chap when it came to club rules, and so his aviation research would I think be equally as detailed and accurate. I'm sure he has amazing files dating back decades.
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Post by SEAN on Nov 23, 2010 11:00:38 GMT 12
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