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Post by chinapilot on Mar 3, 2021 23:56:44 GMT 12
Many thanks for the additional info which is interesting and certainly adds to the overall strategy in the area.đ I think anything you want to post regarding the US forces is welcome.
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Post by chinapilot on Mar 2, 2021 16:04:04 GMT 12
dazz - was a good friend of the pilot who not only helped me clear my section with his trusty chainsaw but also many enjoyable times scuba diving and fishing. Directly involved with support in the tragic aftermath but left NZ shortly after and lost contact with the family. If a family member wants to hear any memories please let me know.
WED. -The accident site was on flat terrain beside Lindens Road, 3 km north of Koromiko, at an elevation of 130feet amsl. National Grid reference 260221 (NZMS 1, sheet S22, âPictonâ).
The report has two clear diagrams of the location.
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Post by chinapilot on Mar 2, 2021 15:37:41 GMT 12
aircraftclocks - Thanks as usual for your painstaking work posting these entries. What is interesting is the hourly/daily harassment of the New Ireland area as well as the Gazelle Peninsular and Bougainville. Not without attrition as there were constant losses, fortunate ones getting picked up by Catalinas. The PT Boats ( of which not much is on record but it seems at times they even ventured to the outskirts of Rabaul) seem to have picked up some crew also.
A tantalising entry on the 28Sept was,
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Post by chinapilot on Feb 15, 2021 16:16:20 GMT 12
Re the F-27 documentary, Tony has passed on but Ted is still around.
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Post by chinapilot on Feb 15, 2021 16:02:58 GMT 12
Hi Peter - many thanks for a great âseriesâ as usual.
Regarding BOW and BPW - no pilots names mentioned re the mishaps.
In the mid â60s there was a story going around about a self depreciating humorous telegram sent to the then CAD re a early â60s PA18 mishap whilst topdressing which mentioned â... jettisoned aeroplane instead of loadâ.
The gentleman is still around ( and he is an absolute gentleman).
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Post by chinapilot on Feb 15, 2021 15:27:51 GMT 12
Hi planewriting Not sure what you are referring to âRe video is not thread topicâ but in the âlast flight videoâ the FO is Murray Wood. Paul - if I remember correctly - was an F-27 Captain at that time.
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Post by chinapilot on Jan 18, 2021 19:57:28 GMT 12
You may already have this but itâs taken from the PDF âHistory of WWII Infiltrations in Franceâ. This was on the net but appears to have been removed and the last update I have is 2016.
Correction - it is back on the net and updated in 2020.
RAF 267 Sqn - Dakota (F/Lt B Rostron) - Mission Massingham - via Corsica Reception Pierre-Camille Rayon aka Archiduc â 21 passengers + F/Lt Mc Cairns: RenĂ© Obadia aka Pioche John Goldsmith aka Valentin, 13 USAAF airmen + X left to pour Bari (Italy) 8 USAF did not embark plane overloaded.
13 passengers + F/Lt Mc Cairns did round trip - BCRAA Tindouf Mission: St/Lt Alain Pescalidis aka Douf pseudo Mac Paul pseudo Albert Prudhomme, Louis Pinneteau pseudo Jean Masson pseudo René Martin aka Douf 1 & WT Pierre Velasco pseudo Manent aka Toulouse aka Douf 2 (Military Intelligence Alpes Maritimes, Bouches du RhÎne & Var) - BCRAA Ifrane Mission: Cpt Claude Le Sourd aka Rane 100 pseudo Claude Galimard aka Dussiples & radio Jacques Laloy aka Rane 101 pseudo Jacques Leroy (Military Intelligence Gard, ArdÚche & DrÎme & transmission to Algiers) - Jedburgh Graham : (Maj Michael M.Crosby aka Huge & Cpt Pierre Gavet aka P Gouvet aka Crispin (To sustain Guerrilla in Basses Alpes) NB : WT Sgt William H Adams aka Desire was dropped later - IAM Vaucluse: SOE F Maj John Goldsmith (Second in command to support résistance in Vaucluse) - BCRA :, Francis Louis Closon (CL) aka Fouche & préfet Charles Luizet (CL) aka Storck aka François (To rejoin Paris), - BCRA : Lt/Col Jean Constans aka Saint-Sauveur & Cpt Louis Jonveaux aka Bernard aka Rosaire (Sabotage Gap & Dieulefit regions.
AN46 Mi 2 â Mission Tindouf AN 46 Mi 18 â Jonveaux L KEW HS07/11 â SO Med â App O KEW HS7/129 SOE History 90A KEW HS9/597/5 â Goldsmith J KEW HS9/810/9 â Jonveaux L KEW HS9/328/5 â Closon FL NARA M1623 â R8 â V4 âBVI â Graham SHD LN 40 - 5.6.12 650 â Jonveaux L SHD GR16P332733 â Laloy J SHD GR16P367591 â Le Sourd Cl SHD GR16P295619 â Pichard M SHD 16 P 588038 â Velasco P SHD 16 P 479204 â Pinneteau L SHD GR28P3 43 â Mission Ifrane SHD Dictionnaire Historique LtCol W Irwin â The Jedburghs. H Verity - Ed 2000 - App B
5 km W Saint Christol, 18km N Apt, LZ Spitfire/Archiduc (44° 01' 40'' N â 05° 25' 00'' E), Vaucluse Vaucluse, France
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Post by chinapilot on Jan 12, 2021 23:45:05 GMT 12
Thanks Errol!
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Post by chinapilot on Jan 12, 2021 19:59:49 GMT 12
Does anyone have an identity ?
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 29, 2020 23:14:53 GMT 12
As davidd said - many thanks for these interesting posts.
The B-24 survivors rescued by F/O Beauchamp and his crew were indeed very fortunate.
Guessing the B-24 was on a mission to Nauru or Ocean Island to end up way out there.
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 29, 2020 16:51:13 GMT 12
Bit late to the chase there Peter.
Don't know why an interesting post should be locked over a 'discussion' on good old fashioned semantics?
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 29, 2020 16:38:16 GMT 12
Interesting that they went to Nadzab - well away from their normal operational sphere.
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 29, 2020 16:28:55 GMT 12
Any other info out there on this crew?
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 29, 2020 16:08:35 GMT 12
Evidently the Italians were very predisposed to welcoming aviators in the 1930s being an aviation minded country themselves.
Jean Batten evidently held his hand and waved good bye to a more than slightly eccentric aviator, Maurice Wilson, from Stag Lane in 1933.He had 'promised' to sell her his Moth 'Ever-Wrest' when he returned.
Anyway he ended up being welcomed by the Italian flying fraternity and military who gave him every assistance.
( Wilson was setting out to 'land' as near as possible to the summit of Mt Everest and intended to climb the rest of the way to become the first to reach the summit which, as you can imagine, ended in tears.)
The more interesting mystery is why Jean Batten was not accepted (or didn't apply) by the ATA.
Amy Johnson was lost above 8/8 cloud cover and had to bale out.
Paraphrased from Wiki;
She landed in the Thames in the midst of winter - "Conditions were poor â there was a heavy sea and a strong tide, snow was falling and it was intensely cold".
A convoy of wartime vessels in the Thames Estuary spotted Johnson's parachute coming down and saw her alive in the water, calling for help.
The crew of the vessel threw ropes out to (the pilot) Johnson but she was unable to reach them and was lost under the ship.
A number of witnesses believed there was a second body in the water. The ship's Captain, Ltd Cmr Fletcher dived in and swam out to this, rested on it for a few minutes then let go. When the lifeboat reached him he was unconscious and as a result of the intense cold he died in hospital days later.
"Lost under the ship" could well be an ehuphmism for being struck by the ship's propellers. If this was the case she was probably already deceased given the sea temperature. Also it's doubtful if 'cries for help were heard' above the noise of a convoy but with all eyewitnesses now dead the story is open to conjecture.
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 24, 2020 17:52:59 GMT 12
Some photos there that supplement the great RNZAF threads by aircraftclocks.
Have to wonder though why this thread has such a dramatic title - surely just pick up the phone or email the museum to let them know about their dastardly error?
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 24, 2020 17:38:03 GMT 12
Regarding Rotherham there was still a large field there in the late 1960s/early 1970s.
This was suitable for ab initio circuit training and the Canterbury Aero Club used to send up Bruce Miller for the day to instruct various farmers in the area who wanted to learn to fly.
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 21, 2020 21:53:05 GMT 12
Flaps are the giveaway on the 150 Cub.
Regarding BPG - Jim Patton completed his CPL at the Wellington Aero Club and this was his first aviation job. He was from Scotland and got into flying later in life and I understand his legs were very badly injured in the accident.
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 16, 2020 23:59:36 GMT 12
Hi Dave - suggest this goes into the Activity thread? Cheers Ian
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 11, 2020 18:37:49 GMT 12
Hi Dave - this is about to disappear off the page - lots of info so maybe a âstickyâ?
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Post by chinapilot on Dec 11, 2020 18:17:37 GMT 12
Thanks aircraftclocks for posting these.
Iâm assuming the âLaddâ in the crew lists is Fred.
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