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Post by beagle on Apr 29, 2010 20:47:59 GMT 12
Sorry forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't the A190 a very poor performing helicopter in warmer climates? No worries there, they are basing them at Ohakea. How do they perform in bloody miserable climates? ;D thats pretty good for you Dave
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Post by Naki on Apr 29, 2010 22:14:57 GMT 12
Sorry forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't the A190 a very poor performing helicopter in warmer climates? I don't understand why we aren't buying U.S. built kit. The C130, UH-1H, Bell 47, A4k, Harvard lasted us a very long time. When it comes to operating climate why do we get every thing from Austria? I'm not up on the prices but we could probably get Blackhawks cheaper and from my research the you be a far better machine. I don't belive that I have seen any specs for a winch on the NH90 Just my 2c so please correct me if I'm wrong The Malaysians have bought A109LUHs and so have the South Africans - I doubt they would buy a helicopter that would perform poorly in warm climates and they aren't made in Austria they are an Italian helicopter although I believe big chunks of it are made in Poland by PZL. The Blackhawk is quite an old design and the Aussies are replacing theirs with NH-90s - the NH-90 is quite a bit bigger than and more capable IMO than a Blackhawk. The NH-90 has been bought by fair number of European Armed Forces (Netherlands, Germany, Finland, Norway, Portugal, France, Sweden, Spain and Greece) and set to beocme the standard medium transport helicopter in Europe
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Post by 30sqnatc on Apr 29, 2010 23:16:54 GMT 12
I don't understand why we aren't buying U.S. built kit. The C130, UH-1H, Bell 47, A4k, Harvard lasted us a very long time. my 2c so please correct me if I'm wrong Many countries around the world who have a choise are deciding not to purchase US equipment due to the restrictions buying US imposes and the support difficulties.
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Post by lesterpk on Apr 29, 2010 23:54:39 GMT 12
I don't belive that I have seen any specs for a winch on the NH90 Just my 2c so please correct me if I'm wrong Two winches fitted on the NH90 and one on the A109.
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Post by Bruce on Apr 30, 2010 10:01:16 GMT 12
The Blackhawk is also a long way through its design life - despite all the modern variants, it was designed in the 1970s and is at least a generation older than the NH90, meaning it will be obsolete far sooner - not good procurement practice. Like buying a CRT computer monitor.....
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Post by Brett on Apr 30, 2010 10:29:35 GMT 12
I believe there can also be difficulties associated with disposing of assets sourced from the US...
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Post by kiwiscanfly on May 1, 2010 15:14:02 GMT 12
I believe there can also be difficulties associated with disposing of assets sourced from the US... Yea the skyhawks are a good example of that And on the topic of the A109's, does anybody have any idea of the exact specs of the helo's we are getting. Like the kind of gear they can be equipped with M60 machine guns and other gear???
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Post by nige on May 1, 2010 18:24:13 GMT 12
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Post by kiwiscanfly on May 1, 2010 18:49:47 GMT 12
Thanks for the link nige, Well if my wish were to come true i would have some hellfires a few air to air and of course the machine gun pod however i have just posted an article that i found on the defense white paper forum and my hopes are now a little doused for the NZDF overall and even more so after people said we may get more helo's and more capabilities within the airforce. But the Government must see the advantage of the A109's in NZ being able to have this capability............. they go on about flexibility and stuff and this is such a good opportunity to make the A109's a very flexible and multi role platform.
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Post by madmac on May 3, 2010 6:18:16 GMT 12
So are there lead correcting sights for MAG58M or they still going to make do with iron sights.
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Post by phil on May 3, 2010 7:12:12 GMT 12
They have airborne sights (ring and bead), not the infantry sights.
Do you have a link to a lead correcting sight that works on a door mounted flexible machine gun?
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Post by madmac on May 3, 2010 10:02:18 GMT 12
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Post by davekiwi on May 3, 2010 10:37:26 GMT 12
They have airborne sights (ring and bead), not the infantry sights. Do you have a link to a lead correcting sight that works on a door mounted flexible machine gun? From the RNZAF News - Dec 2008 issue: Door gunner training was invaluable as we gave cover fire when contacted, and while using our Mag-58 laser attachment, to identify Landing Zones and aid in our firing accuracy during night missions Also remember reading in the NAVY TIMES about this, and the new door mount that needed to be fabricated ..... also, a story in one of the issues, of a SH-2G taking out a RAN Sea Hawk with door mounted gun :-)
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Post by davekiwi on May 3, 2010 15:08:05 GMT 12
I specifically avoided mentioning the 'laser attachment' capability, but since it's clearly in the public domain I will say it has absolutely nothing to do with calculating lead. I'm the one assembling the new SH-2G door mounts which are designed to take the MAG58M. Didn't mean to imply it was .. more that there wasn't a reliance on open iron sights any more. Actually struggle to see how one could have a lead computing sight for a door mounted gun. But then only an ex greenie at that.
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Post by phil on May 3, 2010 17:47:50 GMT 12
.. more that there wasn't a reliance on open iron sights any more. Actually struggle to see how one could have a lead computing sight for a door mounted gun. But then only an ex greenie at that. I was wondering that too, hence why I asked for a link. To calculate lead you need to know quite a few variables, and I'm not sure how any sight on a flexible mount could get those variables, ie forward speed in relation to the target, g loading at the time you pull the trigger, speed of target and distance to target to name just a few. Considering how the Skyhawk computed the aiming point for LCOS and CCIL modes for the fixed and forward firing 20mm cannon, I'd be well impressed. Of course technology has moved on a bit in the last 25 years, so if there is a sight unit that will do that I would be interested. I'm sure the crewies would love it too.
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Post by beagle on May 14, 2010 17:06:24 GMT 12
That photoshop pics been around a while Beag's. The first one (actually the second frame) is out of the paintshop this week. so any official photos yet Les
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Post by lesterpk on May 14, 2010 20:23:10 GMT 12
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Post by phil on May 14, 2010 20:28:05 GMT 12
Crickey, what a boring scheme.
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Post by skyhawkdon on May 14, 2010 20:35:43 GMT 12
Battleship grey...
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Post by kiwiscanfly on May 14, 2010 21:03:28 GMT 12
I hate to say it but God It Look's Good (sorry Phil)
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