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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 17:49:51 GMT 12
I was gonna say that the Macchi (first time I've ever seen the name Maachi used Dave, the wartime fighters were Macchi from memory) must have been the only aircraft the RNZAF have named for themselves? Are there any other examples? Everything I can think of already had a name, except perhaps the DH9? Maybe the Bleriot "Britannia" is the other example?
Actually, what service names were given to the Boeing 727s and the 757s? Or are they examples of the naming policy being discontinued?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 14, 2011 17:55:11 GMT 12
Sorry Zac, that was my typo, fixed now. Yes, it's Macchi.
The Bleriot's name Britannia is just an individual name for that specific aircraft, not a type name.
The Boeing 727 was known as the Vomit Comet.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 14, 2011 18:04:46 GMT 12
Those that have not seemingly had proper official names are:
de Havilland DH4
de Havilland DH9
de Havilland DH50
Avro 504K
Avro 626 in RNZAF service though it did have a name overseas
Douglas DC-6
Boeing 727
Boeing 757
Fairey IIIF
Porterfield 35W
Waco
I'll bet they won't give the new helicopters proper names.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 14, 2011 18:13:22 GMT 12
Oh yes, and the range of Austers.
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Post by lesterpk on Mar 14, 2011 19:27:26 GMT 12
Mako is the call sign they have gotten for it, maybe it will stick?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 14, 2011 19:33:30 GMT 12
Ooh, that's cool, and close to a dolphin but with sharper teeth.
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Post by noooby on Mar 15, 2011 4:39:09 GMT 12
Hmm, didn't know that the RNZAF officially named the Macchi the Macchi. Every MB326 or MB339 operator worldwide calls them Macchi as it is easier than saying Aermacchi, so when I was working at Ohakea, I just assumed we were doing the same as everyone else!
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Post by Naki on Mar 15, 2011 8:14:42 GMT 12
Beside Macchi, what is a RNZAF official name that is unique to the RNZAF?
All the aircraft I can think of had names anyway other than the ones mentioned above which only had a number designation.
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Post by phil on Mar 15, 2011 15:02:47 GMT 12
I'm not convinced Macchi counts as it's just a simplification of Aermacchi, although to back up it's 'officialness' MAC was the aircraft's proper abbreviation (just as IRO, SEA, ORI are), rather than AER which it would have been if it was derived from Aermacchi.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 15, 2011 18:57:01 GMT 12
Well, I cannot recall where I read that but I know it was published, there was an accompanying photo of a Macchi 202 or one of the other Italian fighters (I rememebr that as it was the first time I'd read that the RNZAF pilots fought Italy in air combat, back when i knew very little about the war). It would have been published a little before or around the time of the introduction to service. It doesn't seem to have been in NZ Wings as I have checked my copies of that magazine from then and cannot see it, so my guess is it was RNZAF News, or perhaps Reveille (the tri-service newspaper back then - does that still exist?).
Maybe opther air forces used the name Macchi too, I don't know. My point was the RNZAF apparently decided to make it the official name of their fleet.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 24, 2011 9:49:09 GMT 12
Some here may have noticed I had to remove the photos of the helicopter in its case at Ohakea, at the request of the Wing Commander in charge of the helicopter transition flight, as they were a breach of security.
Teletext currently has this report that it quotes from Fairfax:
"New helicopters for air force fleet
Two Augusta Westland A109s will be the first new operational aircraft to go into service with the air force since it started flying Skyhawk fighter bombers in 1970.
The Royal New Zealand Air Force has taken delivery of its first new operational aircraft in more than four decades.
Crates containing two Italian-made AugustaWestland A109 helicopters have been delivered."
Umm, what about the Strikemaster, Maachi and Seasprite, Fairfax??
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Post by skyhawkdon on Mar 24, 2011 11:26:17 GMT 12
Some here may have noticed I had to remove the photos of the helicopter in its case at Ohakea, at the request of the Wing Commander in charge of the helicopter transition flight, as they were a breach of security. A breach of security?  Weren't they RNZAF Official photos?? |
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Post by kb on Mar 24, 2011 11:38:14 GMT 12
Some here may have noticed I had to remove the photos of the helicopter in its case at Ohakea, at the request of the Wing Commander in charge of the helicopter transition flight, as they were a breach of security. A breach of security? Hooray. We've got equipment that has the Russian, Chinese, U.S, etc buzzing around trying to access this very hi tech stuff. Lets hope for the sake of our security that they were as slow as me in saving these photos.  |
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Post by flyjoe180 on Mar 24, 2011 12:14:22 GMT 12
Maybe those cases weren't environmentally friendly? Someone avoiding their carbon credits? ;D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 24, 2011 12:43:16 GMT 12
They were RNZAF Official photos but had not been cleared by the head of the unit to be circulated publicly apparently, and as there were recognisable people in them, they were considered by Wing Commander Sexton to be a breach.
We have to respect the decision. I for one do not want the forum to upset the RNZAF. We are very lucky to have a blanket permission to post RNZAF Official photos and if a handful have to be removed, so be it.
It's no different from someone taking photos in a hangar of a warbird restoration and posting them here without permission. If the owner complained I would also immediately remove them too.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Mar 24, 2011 14:26:34 GMT 12
Welcome to the www RNZAF!
I guess we will see what gets published in the next Air Force News magazine and is released to other media for publication. Are they going to blur out all the faces or something? ;D
Personally I don't think security has ANYTHING to do with it Dave. Someone is just pissed someone else posted them here before they had a chance to release them officially. And that is fair enough. They should be more careful about what they do with their own official photos!
Everyone I know is excited about the arrival of these aircraft and the RNZAF should be proud of it. This is a historic moment that should be promoted by the RNZAF.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 24, 2011 14:54:57 GMT 12
Very historic, the first new aeroplanes since 1970, if you believe Fairfax media!
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Post by lesterpk on Mar 24, 2011 19:47:36 GMT 12
I must say I have seen pics of the painted NH90 and A109s and the delivery before we had been told about it at work by seeing them here on the forums. Not a good look really.
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Post by Chris F on Mar 25, 2011 11:46:49 GMT 12
The media just have no idea about aircraft.....just like the wife really.
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Post by kb on Mar 25, 2011 13:54:18 GMT 12
Why don't they just say that they are RNZAF photos and they are not ready to release them yet. Fair enough! It's the security bit that has caused the comments.  |
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Weren't they RNZAF Official photos??
