rod
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Post by rod on May 6, 2011 20:09:40 GMT 12
came across this, just out of interest Attachments:
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 6, 2011 22:27:17 GMT 12
Neat shot. Thanks for that.
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Post by strikemaster on May 7, 2011 0:14:29 GMT 12
Sweet. What year was that?
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Post by Peter Lewis on May 7, 2011 8:30:29 GMT 12
Must be mid-to-late 1930s.
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 7, 2011 12:18:52 GMT 12
Would the Walrus aircraft of HMS Achilles and HMS Leander squadrons have been RAF owned/operated before 1938? I believe the Fleet Air Arm only came into being as a naval air force (again) in about 1938. So were they flown by and operated by RAF men? Same for the Seafox or whatever it was these ships carried before the Walrus?
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Post by strikemaster on May 7, 2011 12:22:22 GMT 12
The ref to HMS Leander as opposed to HMNZS Leander would mean its before 1937 or after 1945. Unless the media got slack.
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 7, 2011 13:00:23 GMT 12
Wrong. The Royal New Zealand Navy formed in October 1941. All our ships before that point were HMS ships. And all our sailors were RNVR, and members of the New Zealand Division of the Royal Navy before October 1941. In NZ the Navy is the junior service.
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Post by strikemaster on May 7, 2011 14:00:14 GMT 12
Really? So that would mean not 1941 to 1945. I would have thought it older than the Air Force.
One of my ancestors was a pioneer in the New Zealand Navy, Captain Hannibal Marks. buried at the Mount he was harbour master at Tauranga and if memory serves one of the first Captain's of a New Zealand Navy vessel. Sorry for the side track, for a land lubber I seem to have a few ties to the sea. ;D
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 7, 2011 16:09:06 GMT 12
No the RNZN is definately younger than the RNZAF as a seperate service.
I guess the Walrus here must be K8541 of No. 720 Squadron which crashed in Wellingotn Harbour when in landed with the wheels down on the 24th of November 1937.
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Post by 30sqnatc on May 7, 2011 16:10:26 GMT 12
Wrong. The Royal New Zealand Navy formed in October 1941. All our ships before that point were HMS ships. And all our sailors were RNVR, and members of the New Zealand Division of the Royal Navy before October 1941. In NZ the Navy is the junior service. Technically part of your statement is incorrect. In NZ the Navy legally is not the junior service, it is the senior service. While as an independant NZ service it is junior, it can trace its links back further than the other two services - the 1860s hence the legal seniority within NZDF is Navy - Army - Air Force. That is why the navy is always on the right (senior position) in a tri-service guard. Paul
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Post by strikemaster on May 7, 2011 17:53:19 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 7, 2011 19:25:03 GMT 12
I only said the Navy were the junior to get a bite, which I did - unexpectedly from an Army man. ;D They think they're so damned special... They are definately the johnny come latelys as a seperate service.
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Post by Tony on May 17, 2011 3:17:38 GMT 12
I only said the Navy were the junior to get a bite, which I did - unexpectedly from an Army man. ;D They think they're so damned special... They are definately the johnny come latelys as a seperate service. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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rod
Flight Lieutenant
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Post by rod on May 17, 2011 17:48:38 GMT 12
going by the ship, its old as, and seen theres no old planes up for grabs i had to settle for a neat old kauri launch, and the best part is, its moored near the end of the tauranga airport runway, so either i get some good underbelly shots or covered in fuel,, glad i dont smoke!!
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Post by oggie2620 on May 18, 2011 1:58:05 GMT 12
I love the pic and how the thread developed...
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Post by strikemaster on May 18, 2011 17:13:17 GMT 12
Aiiiii.
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Post by Tony on May 18, 2011 23:28:14 GMT 12
I guess the Walrus here must be K8541 of No. 720 Squadron which crashed in Wellingotn Harbour when in landed with the wheels down on the 24th of November 1937. From the adf site: www.adf-serials.com/nz-serials/nz151.shtml On loan from FAA 1937. Assigned to No. 720 Squadron from October 1936-January 1940 while attached to ships of the New Zealand Division of the Royal Navy. Embarked on HMS Leander in April 1937 and arrived in Auckland on board the ship on 18 August of that year. Assigned to 720 Squadron. Crashed Wellington Harbour after water landing with undercarriage down 24 November 1937. Lieutenant G. Nicholl, Corporal Ison and LAC Simcox uninjured but aircraft written off.
The photo also shows what appears to be the Leander's Ships Crest on the nose (bow?) of the aircraft.
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