Beautiful pics! My favourite section of the RAF Museum is the Grahame White Hangar and seeing the Dolphin in there is a real treat! Lets hope they finish that LVG soon and get that in there too.
As for repro or original; that argument will never die since almost every surviving WW1 aircraft incorporates new build and original sections. At Hendon, the Great War machines are almost all originals, but for the fact that many of them (those that were in the Nash collection) used to be flyers, so how much 'original' structure survives is debateable. This is with the exception of the Pup, which was a new build by Desmond St Cyrien incorporating a few original parts, although he concocted a tale about a hangar near Le Bourget full of WW1 airframes.
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Did I hear that the RAF Museum is also getting RE.8 and Albatross D.Va reporoductions from TVAL?
Or was that wild speculation on someones part?
We've heard the same rumour at this end. There's also been a rumour about a Snipe. I'm happy to wait and see what turns up, but I'm saddened by the aeroplanes that are supposed to be involved in the trade.
A wee snippet from the rumour mill. It appears that RAFM have ordered a Albatros D V, maybe D Va, Snipe and RE.8 from TVAL and for an exchange a Farman and this little beastie might be coming here.
It's a Hanriot HD-1 and used to fly before it was gifted to the RAF Museum, so it's potentially flyable. No doubt TVAL will probably overhaul it, but it'll be an interesting and different little machine at flying displays, that's if it is restored to flying condition.
Heavy as buggery. Back in 2003 we had to move a few aircraft around before the official opening of the Grahame White hangar, to make room for more aeroplanes to go in. The Hanriot for some reason was extremely heavy at the tail compared to the Pup and Tripe.
Hanriot built Sopwith 1 1/2 strutters under licence at Billancourt, France and the HD-1 was the firm's only fighter. The Eyeties built more than the original factory under licence (Nieuport-Macchi) and the US Navy used them as well. The French chose the Spad 7 over the Hanriot, although it was a decent fighter; Belgian ace Willy Coppens shot down most of his victories in the type.
Great stuff, good to see that; I've never seen it before. That caption might be out by only a year, because I think (could be wrong) the photo might have been taken at Hendon in 1936. I think the Farman last flew in 1938.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 22, 2012 14:50:50 GMT 12
If that is the same Maurice Farman as I think it is, I recall Bill Kain told us that he and Cobber Kain and a few of the boys from No. 73 Squadron almost took it for a flight, till they got caught and severely told off. From memory it was at Hendon or one of the other places where they were preparing for an air pageant (Bill and Cobber were in the display team). I think he said they actually got it started, or very nearly did at least. haha. Can just imagine these mad capped kiwi farm boys trying to get the museum relic going.
That's a great wee anecdote, Dave! I might have gotten it wrong, the place in the photo is probably Hendon, but the date, 1937 is most likely accurate, as it flew at the Hendon air display in both 1936 and '37. The Maurice Farman was part of the Nash Collection, a chappie called R.G. Nash collected a heap of WW1 aircraft and for a time had them stored at RAF Hendon, although they were also at Brooklands for awhile. Almost all of the WW1 stuff in the RAF Museum collection is from Nash. Most of them flew as well.
At the time the Kiwis probably played around with it, it was still with Nash, although I think by 1938 it had permanently moved to Brooklands. I'll have to read up about it a bit more...
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 22, 2012 19:47:52 GMT 12
I'm not 100% certain of my facts because it was the mid-1990's Bill told us that story, but I'll check with my mate who was there, Kerry (fockewulf on the forum) as he has a sharper memory of the conversations with Bill than I do. We taped a lot of it but this one is not on the tape sadly. He may be able to add more or correct what I said. Bill was in the display team a couple of years running, so I'm not certain which show it was, may not have been hendon but I had a feeling he said it was.
There was a photo I saw somewhere, I think on Flight Global, of all the old stuff lined up with a load of new gear like Hurricane, Spitifre, Defiant, etc. We thought it may have been that occasion he referred to.