Gentlemen, quite the hive of busy bees on this thread! Absotively magic to see all these great pics.
If I've missed it I apologise but would there be good colour references for the Fancy nose art? On a prophetic note I have a 1:48th commission build on the cards, for this particular 75 Sqn a/c. I will have to translate the markings into CAD, thence to a decal sheet.
According to Ian Wallace's research, quoting Pilot Alex Simpson, who flew JN-M on two op's, Captain Reilly Foull's colouring was:
"The face, neck and hands were originally a ‘flesh’ colour, but had faded to be almost white. The uniform was Army khaki. He holds a pint of ale in his right hand, a 25lb practice bomb in his left and a corn-cob pipe in his mouth. The devil that he was, he has two horns sprouting from his temples."
The photo with Ed Ware in the cockpit has a bit more detail of the top of his head but the original artwork seems to be a fairly rough interpretation of the classic Daily Mirror cartoon character, Captain A. R. Reilly-Ffoull:
Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 5, 2013 21:29:52 GMT 12
I have always thought that he had a Terry-Thomas look too. A bit of an evil caddish type.
Who actually applied the artwork, does anyone know? or who's idea was it, which crew?
He is also reminiscent of the cartoon characters that appeared in British and NZ Army literature and on signage, etc, in the Italian Campaign. they were called 'The Two Types' and were stiff upper lip pommy officers who got everything wrong. A bit like Colonel Blimp.
I wonder, did any of the No. 75 (NZ) Squadron bombers make it to 100 operations (plus)?
And does anyone know of other Lancasters or other bomber types that achieved this milestone with kiwi crew or connections?
In the excellent book "Lancaster" by Mike Garbett and Brian Goulding there's a photo of Lancaster BIII PB150 CF-V of No. 625 Squadron at Scampton with a large kiwi sitting on a bomb painted under the pilot's window, alongside markings for 100 ops (five or so of which were dropping food rather then bombs). Does anyone know who the New Zealand crew member/s was/were?
Wow, Take a look at my blog to check the pictures out, my grandad was the bomb aimer and the exact same plane you described. I would love to find out more information on it! My blog is rockandinspire.wordpress.com/2013/09/23/my-grandad-xxx/ I am taking it this is the crew as I also have other pictures of the crew sat in the pilots seat :-)
The NZBCA with MOTAT is currently upgrading the displays from the minimal treatment they received when the ADH opened. As part of this re look , we are considering if the Lanc could be re done as JN -M The Captains Fancy. While it means changing squadron codes from AA , the Lanc may become a better exhibit. What we need is the history of JN - M and the names of crews who flew her. I know some of our Forum dwellers have done a lot of work , can you share it , perhaps by PM. We intend locating as much material as possible before deciding on making it a funded project.
As you know the Lanc has AA codes on the starboard side and 101 squadrons SR on the other , but there is some question about the contribution and fate of the actual aircraft currently depicted as well as the famous AA perhaps disappearing. Discussion is most welcome
No, 75 (NZ) Sqdn was the only NZ heavy bomber squadron, so I think it's entirely appropriate to have a JN code on one side, and the AA code on the other. The intention after all, was to bring NE181 back to NZ after the war. If the bomber boys had been able to convince the govt. she would be here in the flesh! AA-O makes a neat pairing, with the famous code, and very good existing film footage of her in action. My penny's worth! Cheers, Chris
Thanks for the input gentlemen , and thanks Chris for the offer of detailed info. Any change is going to be debatable and I think getting JN-M accepted is the first step. Having AA as well wouldnt have my support. I think 101 , or 7 Squadrons are a possibility but personalised to a special Kiwi crew that would have its own story board.