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Post by shorty on Jan 25, 2017 15:19:17 GMT 12
Also sad that they were never replaced with another type with similar capabilities
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Post by camtech on Jan 25, 2017 16:55:11 GMT 12
I agree, Shorty. Their ability to get into short strips and flexibility was sadly lost through economics. The ability to operate without expensive ground support made them obviously attractive for the operators who acquired them for relief operations in Africa.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 30, 2017 10:11:44 GMT 12
Air Britain are releasing an interesting book late next month which may be of interest to some people at this group. “The Avro 748 - The Full Story of the 748, Andover & ATP” by Richard J. Church is a considerably updated version of a book about the “748” which was originally published in 1986. No indication yet of price on their website. UPDATE: The webpage is now showing a price. £47.50 if you are a non-member, or £34.95 is you are a member of Air Britain. I'm going to probably bite the bullet and order a copy of the book. |
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Post by McFly on Feb 2, 2017 19:31:25 GMT 12
This is a summary that I pieced together from various sources, however there is probably a bit more up-to-date information out there on the final disposition of NZ7627 and NZ7628.
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NZ7620 (XS599) – As 5Y-SFE crashed in Democratic Republic of Congo in early 2003(5) (Confirmed) See:
Written off 10 June 2005 after sustaining damage on landing at Lokichoggio Airport, Kenya. Aircraft landed with undercarriage still retracted, due to miscommunication and unfamiliarity of crew of three, who were unhurt. Aircraft was further damaged same day when hit by Hercules trying to land on same strip. Wreckage still present April 2008 (scrapped).
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NZ7621 (XS600) - RNZAF Museum (Confirmed).
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NZ7622 (XS602) – As 3C-KKB with 748 Air Services crashed at Rumbek airstrip in the Southern Sudan 2003. Suffered a major engine failure and overran Rumbek airstrip in the Southern Sudan on landing, breaking starboard wing. Wreckage sighted derelict on airstrip 2005, still in VIP colour scheme (scrapped).
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NZ7623 (XS604) – As 9Q-CDY at the ‘Fire School’ in Ranst Belgium 2006.
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NZ7624 (XS608) - Fuselage only survives as fire trainer at RNZAF Whenuapai (Confirmed).
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NZ7625 (XS611) – As 3C-KKC reportedly with 748 Air Services, but stored at Lokichoggio (Kenya) – de-registered and scrapped 2007.
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NZ7626 (XS612) – As 3D-MKX with Malu Avn crashed at Bandandu (Swaziland) in 2003 (scrapped).
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NZ7627 (XS613) – As 9Q-COE Last seen at Lanseria in Air Katanga colours 2002. Last known sighting parked at Lokichoggio, Kenya, 2008. De-registered (probably scrapped).
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NZ7628 (XS638) – AS 9Q-CYB at Lanseria 2005 with International Transair Business - ITAB Cargo Registered..? (unknown).
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NZ7629 (XS645) – As 9Q-CVC with Air Katanga at Lanseria DRC 2001 – de-registered (scrapped).
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Post by camtech on Feb 2, 2017 20:08:22 GMT 12
Air Britain are releasing an interesting book late next month which may be of interest to some people at this group. “The Avro 748 - The Full Story of the 748, Andover & ATP” by Richard J. Church is a considerably updated version of a book about the “748” which was originally published in 1986. No indication yet of price on their website. UPDATE: The webpage is now showing a price. £47.50 if you are a non-member, or £34.95 is you are a member of Air Britain. I'm going to probably bite the bullet and order a copy of the book. Hmm - add to that minimum post and packing of 30 quid makes it a very expensive book. I still have a copy of the earlier edition acquired off Trade me. |
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on May 18, 2017 11:56:10 GMT 12
The Air Britain book turned up in the mail today.
I've only had a quick look through it and first impressions are that it is up to Air Britain's usual high standards.
Both Mount Cook Airlines and the RNZAF have entries on their operations of 748 and Andover transports, but the best part is the extensive entries for each of the individual airframes which were operated in New Zealand.
And, a pleasant surprise....a DVD came with the book. I'll have to check that out next time I've got some days off.
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Post by camtech on Sept 6, 2017 12:30:04 GMT 12
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Post by camtech on Sept 6, 2017 12:55:16 GMT 12
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Sept 6, 2017 13:11:09 GMT 12
Cool pics - thanks! I'd forgotten how large the props were...
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 6, 2017 14:37:53 GMT 12
Lovely shots Les. I reckon the Andover has to be the nicest looking British designed twin transport/utility aircraft ever.
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Post by camtech on Sept 10, 2017 15:32:28 GMT 12
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Post by camtech on Sept 10, 2017 23:06:54 GMT 12
Forgot to mention with regard to the colour photo of NZ7626 and '24 in Fiji, I was on board '26 when the photo was taken. We had taken a load out to the island (which one I cannot recall) and were getting ready to come back when '24 came in to the same strip.
The most interesting landing was at Ba, where the approach is over the beach and at the other end is a rather substantial hill. We had a load of rice (about 5 tonnes), and once we had landed and backed into a parking bay, the aircraft was unloaded within 5 minutes by the local villagers. We couldn't stop because we had to get out before dark and back to Nadi.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 28, 2017 21:48:50 GMT 12
I wonder how the restoration is going on the ex-Whenuapai fire training Andover.
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Post by chbessexboy on Nov 29, 2017 5:59:48 GMT 12
I wonder how the restoration is going on the ex-Whenuapai fire training Andover. Dave, Is there a thread on this forum for that restoration? I happen to have an Andover prop in my back yard. |
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Andovers
Nov 29, 2017 9:03:47 GMT 12
via mobile
Post by camtech on Nov 29, 2017 9:03:47 GMT 12
Not yet, but here will do for the time being.
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Post by joey05 on Dec 3, 2017 11:05:39 GMT 12
 Wow02 by Joe Smith, on Flickr Warbirds Over Wanaka before digital cameras. |
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Post by scrooge on Dec 3, 2017 13:38:34 GMT 12
I've said it before but if anyone has contact with the restoration group we have a nose wheel tyre available FOC.
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Post by McFly on Nov 7, 2020 17:17:48 GMT 12
This is a summary that I pieced together from various sources, however there is probably a bit more up-to-date information out there on the final disposition of NZ7627 and NZ7628. ________________________________________ NZ7620 (XS599) – As 5Y-SFE crashed in Democratic Republic of Congo in early 2003(5) (Confirmed) See: Written off 10 June 2005 after sustaining damage on landing at Lokichoggio Airport, Kenya. Aircraft landed with undercarriage still retracted, due to miscommunication and unfamiliarity of crew of three, who were unhurt. Aircraft was further damaged same day when hit by Hercules trying to land on same strip. Wreckage still present April 2008 (scrapped). ________________________________________ NZ7621 (XS600) - RNZAF Museum (Confirmed). ________________________________________ NZ7622 (XS602) – As 3C-KKB with 748 Air Services crashed at Rumbek airstrip in the Southern Sudan 2003. Suffered a major engine failure and overran Rumbek airstrip in the Southern Sudan on landing, breaking starboard wing. Wreckage sighted derelict on airstrip 2005, still in VIP colour scheme (scrapped). ________________________________________ NZ7623 (XS604) – As 9Q-CDY at the ‘Fire School’ in Ranst Belgium 2006. ________________________________________ NZ7624 (XS608) - Fuselage only survives as fire trainer at RNZAF Whenuapai (Confirmed). ________________________________________ NZ7625 (XS611) – As 3C-KKC reportedly with 748 Air Services, but stored at Lokichoggio (Kenya) – de-registered and scrapped 2007. ________________________________________ NZ7626 (XS612) – As 3D-MKX with Malu Avn crashed at Bandandu (Swaziland) in 2003 (scrapped). ________________________________________ NZ7627 (XS613) – As 9Q-COE Last seen at Lanseria in Air Katanga colours 2002. Last known sighting parked at Lokichoggio, Kenya, 2008. De-registered (probably scrapped). ________________________________________ NZ7628 (XS638) – AS 9Q-CYB at Lanseria 2005 with International Transair Business - ITAB Cargo Registered..? (unknown). ________________________________________ NZ7629 (XS645) – As 9Q-CVC with Air Katanga at Lanseria DRC 2001 – de-registered (scrapped). ________________________________________ Interesting post today (7/11/202) on the 'New Zealand Military Aircraft Group' FB page...  Facebook Post ( Here)  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 7, 2020 17:19:22 GMT 12
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Post by baronbeeza on Nov 7, 2020 21:08:51 GMT 12
I was working on the flight line at Darwin in 98 and 99. I remember seeing a couple of the Andovers passing through on their way to Africa. I did the marshalling for at least one of them and spoke to the crew. I had been in Africa working in a similar environment so knew of the operators and locations mooted. One of the companies I had worked for operated a Buffalo at Lokichoggio and it was common to see carcasses parked there. I could just imagine those Andovers ending their days there. Mention of a collision brought back memories. In my day a PT-6 DC-3 took out a Twin Otter when it drifted off the runway on take-off. Lokki was a strip in the North of Kenya and all manner of transport aircraft were flying aid into South Sudan. Twin Otter, Curtiss Commando, DC-3, Hercules. It was like a mini- military operation and I suspect we were all ex-military or mercenary. Just the place for a clapped out Andover... www.aviation.enyd.de/index.php?id=110 |
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