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Post by vgp on Jul 22, 2008 9:04:48 GMT 12
Not Kiwi andovers and nothing spectacular in these video's- the person with the video camera seems to like the fire engine more in the E3 vid but the sound is good - these are RAF the CC2 is not actually an andover it is an HS748 but is called an andover why I don't know - but these seem to be the only andover videos on YT. Andover CC2 of No 32 Squadron at RAF Gütersloh 1992(HS748) An Andover CC2 of No 32 Squadron from Northolt visiting RAF Gütersloh in November 1992. The Andovers were regular visitors in Gütersloh. In the background you can see an Antonov AN124 (CCCP-82045). nz.youtube.com/watch?v=aS5uLr9ohQcAndover E3 at RAF Gütersloh in 1992 nz.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr3Iyu7X57c&feature=relatedNote: psychonaut1979's Videos has a heap of short video's of RAF aircraft movements from early 90s RAF Gütersloh located here: nz.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=psychonaut1979&p=rmay be interest. |
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Post by sniff on Jul 22, 2008 19:55:58 GMT 12
The RAF Andovers were all of the following type:
Andover C1 - 31 aircraft for the RAF, of which 10 were sold to the RNZAF
Andover C1(PR) - one C1 aircraft was converted for Photographic Reconnaissance duties. This was for the Open Skies Treaty.
Andover CC2 - is not a variant of the cargo/transport Andover but a VIP transport version of the Hawker Siddeley 748.
Andover E3 - six C1 aircraft were converted for radio and airport aids calibration.
Three remain in service with the Empire Test Pilot School in the 'Heavy' Aircraft Test Squadron, including the Open Skies orphan.
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Post by vgp on Jul 22, 2008 20:26:58 GMT 12
Thank in you for that mr sniff.
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Post by shorty on Jul 22, 2008 22:00:08 GMT 12
Which contract did the RAAF and RAN ones come from?
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Post by sniff on Jul 22, 2008 22:30:50 GMT 12
Which contract did the RAAF and RAN ones come from? Que? Oh, thinking more deeper..... Theirs were straight 748's, I presumed purchased direct from HS. The infamous Draggy! ;D |
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Post by SEAN on Jul 23, 2008 21:12:45 GMT 12
Found this one form the RAF Chivnor air day in 1992. I was posted there on Ex Longlook 1n 1992. Not sure what mark etc the Andover is. I have / had a feeling it might have been a support aircraft for the Red Arrows who were also there, but probably wrong on this..... The Vulcan (XH 558) also attended this air day, and I think it was the second to last time it actually flew whilst still in RAF service. It put on an amazing show, and was so low at one stage that the vibrations from the engines set off many car alarms in the car park. Also witnessed a Spitfire (P7350 ??) from the BBMF crash off the end of the runway, have the photos somewhere.. Ahh the good old days....  |
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Post by shorty on Jul 23, 2008 21:21:50 GMT 12
Which contract did the RAAF and RAN ones come from? Que? Oh, thinking more deeper..... Theirs were straight 748's, I presumed purchased direct from HS. The infamous Draggy! ;D We used to do the major servicings on them at Mt Cook (also the Marshall Islands ones as well) We were lucky enough to be doing a RAN one (with some Aussie navy guys helping) when their Americas Cup yacht sank! Got a good bit of mileage out of that!! |
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Post by vgp on Jul 23, 2008 23:16:53 GMT 12
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Post by John L on Jul 24, 2008 13:01:10 GMT 12
Weren't all the military, or real Andovers, Mk1's - with the cargo doors, kneeling suspension and uprated engines. The Mk2 was just a slightly modded 748, wasn't it?
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Post by camtech on May 19, 2009 22:30:46 GMT 12
Yes Jon you are correct: C Mk 1 was the HS780MF with kneeling undercarriage, uprated engines, etc, and as seen earlier some converted to E Mk 1, E Mk 1a, and C Mk 1(PR). At least one C Mk 1 was converted by the RAF as a VIP aircraft, based in Norway. The CC Mk 2 was the basic 748, with 6 converted for VIP aircraft, including the Queens Flight. At least one of these has visited New Zealand - the serial and dates escapes me at the moment.
As far as the kneeling undercarriage is concerned, we had few problems during the first years. The principal was a hydraulic undercarriage leg, that could be pressurised and extended or pressure released and allowed to collapse. It was a curse if the aircraft was left knelt and we had to pump the hand hydraulic to get it back up again - not recommended!!
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Post by camtech on May 21, 2009 19:18:02 GMT 12
here is one that I captured back in 77  |
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Post by camtech on May 22, 2009 15:16:03 GMT 12
New to this posting images, so try this one  Andover CC Mk2 XS789 at Whenuapai 21 March 77 |
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Post by John L on May 22, 2009 18:02:37 GMT 12
A photo I found whilst trawling through boxes  3 schemes in the one line up..... |
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 22, 2009 18:31:24 GMT 12
Both great shots there camtech and Jon. The brown and green schemed ones must have been off working at the time. I used to often think how neat it was that they had so many different multicoloured schemes on the 42 Squadron Andovers, a real variety. But then 42 Squadron started as a bitsa variety transport squadron back in the war with about 15 or more different types on its books, not to mention the various schemes on each, so it's only fitting. Nowadays they're all in the same uniform.
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Post by Peter Lewis on May 22, 2009 20:27:40 GMT 12
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Post by camtech on May 23, 2009 12:04:57 GMT 12
Peter,
Great photo of my favourite Andover - I was on the delivery crew of this aircraft in March/April 1977.
Our route was Brize Norton (UK) - Naples - Cairo - Bahrein - Bombay (2 nights) - Calcutta - Butterworth - Singapore - Bali (2 nights) - Darwin - Amberley - Whenuapai.
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Post by Ykato on Aug 13, 2010 14:39:46 GMT 12
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Post by classicman on Aug 18, 2010 3:31:28 GMT 12
Having recognised myself in one of the videos above, I trawled through the albums to see if there was anything I could add. Someone asked about the Cook Strait ferry strikes and the role 42SQN had in what was called Operation PLUTO. We had 3 aircraft deployed in 1991 along with 1 C130 to Woodbourne for about a week. Having now been on the wrong end of industrial action I now wonder about how we were used as strikebreakers, but back then it was just a whole lot of flying and a whole lot of fun. We had WB-WLG-WB SIDS and STARS (standard instrument departures and arrivals) invented for PLUTO, long before such things became standard in the civvie world, but most of the time just flogged across the Strait VFR making everyone sick. We could fit in 2 cars and 12 punters (from memory - any ALMs please feel free to interject (like always!)).    |
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Post by beagle on Aug 18, 2010 18:57:49 GMT 12
Would I be right in saying that the Andover had a full femal crew on a flight back in the late 80's or early 90's. Capt, Co, Nav and loady / flt steward
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 18, 2010 20:45:08 GMT 12
Great photos Classicman. I like that last one of the flightline line-up.
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