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Post by soulfreak on Oct 12, 2011 20:39:46 GMT 12
Great pictures guys!
I came across this board during my reference search about the Andovers. Maybe you can help me.
I still need good 3 views / blueprints of The HS-780 with dimensions etc.
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Post by camtech on Oct 12, 2011 21:15:16 GMT 12
I'll have a look in the next few days and see what I have.
Unfortunately all my original training notes for the Andover have disappeared in one of my shifts, but i still have extracts from "The Aeroplane" somewhere in the files.
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Post by htbrst on Oct 13, 2011 8:48:56 GMT 12
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Post by flyjoe180 on Oct 13, 2011 9:27:32 GMT 12
That is a very nice cover and I agree, it would make a good poster.
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Post by soulfreak on Oct 14, 2011 0:55:06 GMT 12
Well at amazon the manuals are all for the HS-748.
References for it i have (inkl. manuals)
I need only still some for the HS-780
But thanks!
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Post by shorty on Oct 14, 2011 7:39:39 GMT 12
Try the AHSNZ magazines for winter and spring 1978. They have 1/72 drawings
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Post by soulfreak on Oct 18, 2011 18:01:29 GMT 12
Try the AHSNZ magazines for winter and spring 1978. They have 1/72 drawings Any idea where i can get it? |
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Post by soulfreak on Oct 16, 2012 22:00:32 GMT 12
Can anyone please help me with some 3 views about the HS.780 Andover???
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Post by whispers on Nov 13, 2013 12:37:31 GMT 12
I was one of the original loadies on Andovers. What a great aircraft. When I was on 3 Sqn, God bless him, S/L Punchcy Patterson asked me if would like to go on Andovers. I didn't have to be asked twice. As regards the Andover to the Chatham Islands, I was the load master on that trip. We took Ann Hercus down there to open the new hall. There wasn't enough accommodation for every one. I stayed the night in the Chatham Island hospital with Trev Palin.
It was also the first Andover to land there. I did a lot of trips down there. There was one young pilot, a good pilot he was, decided to do a beat up. We had cartons of lamb and fish to take back. The ferry tank was fitted. So I had to jam all the produce down the side of ferry tank c of g been a prob as well. He did a low pass, pulled her up and I had cartons of meat all around the cabin. No injuries.
I was also on the first test flight on the first VIP Andover 7628. Gary Wrathall was the test pilot(now deceased)we had to abandon the flight 3 times because of smoke in the cabin. They decided to leave it in the hangar for the night to let it to the ground crew to sort it out. They found a birds nest on one of the inverters. Please don't hesitate to ask any questions about the Andover, and I will give you the good gen.
whispers
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Post by whispers on Nov 13, 2013 12:41:46 GMT 12
 Not too sure exactly where this was taken but the choices are Wigram, Ohakea or Singapore - the 3 bases my friend who took the photo was stationed. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 13, 2013 13:00:53 GMT 12
I'd say looking at that hard stand, with the square concrete slabs, it's Ohakea for sure.
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Post by whispers on Nov 13, 2013 13:15:33 GMT 12
ohakea out side 42 sqn hangar
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Post by suthg on Nov 13, 2013 13:36:11 GMT 12
Modern transport for getting around the base too...  |
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Post by phil82 on Nov 13, 2013 14:27:40 GMT 12
I was also on the first test flight on the first VIP Andover 7628. Gary Wrathall was the test pilot(now deceased)we had to abandon the flight 3 times because of smoke in the cabin. They decided to leave it in the hangar for the night to let it to the ground crew to sort it out. They found a birds nest on one of the inverters. Please don't hesitate to ask any questions about the Andover, and I will give you the good gen. whispers I'm fairly sure it was Gary Wrathall who did a medevac of premature twins from the Chathams having first authorised the flight himself as the Sqn Commander declined because it involved a night take-off from the Chathams which had no runway lighting.[?] If my memory of the conversation I had with Gary himself is correct, he had car headlights on the runway, and decided on a max climb take-off with everything at full tap! Didn't he get an award? AFC perhaps? I'm not sure. I think he too ended up in Saudi or somewher sandy! |
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Post by baronbeeza on Nov 13, 2013 15:05:42 GMT 12
Gary was a character alright. He had done a tour in Oman before 42 Sqdn on Andovers so I would not be surprised if he went back.
I think he was one of those Officers with tattoos on the arms as well. I know you would remember Phil..
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Post by aircraftclocks on Nov 13, 2013 16:13:41 GMT 12
Soulfreak
I just scanned my Andover 0000 course book the other day, it has drawings and dimensions in it.
Still require the info?
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Post by errolmartyn on Nov 13, 2013 17:31:18 GMT 12
"I'm fairly sure it was Gary Wrathall who did a medevac of premature twins from the Chathams having first authorised the flight himself as the Sqn Commander declined because it involved a night take-off from the Chathams which had no runway lighting.[?] If my memory of the conversation I had with Gary himself is correct, he had car headlights on the runway, and decided on a max climb take-off with everything at full tap! Didn't he get an award? AFC perhaps? . . . . "
He did indeed, as per Colin Hanson's entry in his
By Such Deeds - Honours and Awards in the Royal New Zealand Air Force, 1923-1999 :
WRATHALL, Squadron Leader Gary Alexander, AFC.
H78276; Born Auckland, 3 Jun 1938; RNZAF 4 Jan 1956 to 3 Mar 1968, Res. to 2 Sep 1973, RNZAF to 2 Jul 1980, Res. to 3 Jun 1983; Air Signaller, then Pilot.
Citation Air Force Cross (NY1980): Flt Lt Wrathall enlisted in the RNZAF in 1956 and was trained as an Air Signaller. Following re-training as a pilot in 1962, he was employed in the maritime role flying Sunderland aircraft. He transferred to the Reserve in 1968, and after a period of civil flying, re-enlisted in the Regular Air Force in 1973. Since then he has been employed mainly as a pilot with No 42 Sqn. On the evening of 16 May 1979, Flt Lt Wrathall was tasked to fly an Andover to the Chatham islands to evacuate two premature babies to Christchurch. The health of one of the babies was failing and it seemed very unlikely that she would survive, should the flight be delayed until first light on the following day. To have any chance of success it was therefore considered that the flight should be completed without delay. This meant a night landing at Hapupu airfield - a demanding airfield even during daylight hours, with its rough undulating grass runway fringed by trees; no night landing facilities; and where in cross-wind conditions, down-drafts and turbulence are encountered during final approach. On arrival at Hapupu two hours after last light, the cross-wind was 18 knots. After three circuits where he progressively flew the aircraft lower on each approach, Flt Lt Wrathall successfully landed the aircraft with the sole aid of vehicle headlights. He departed the Chathams with the babies 25 minutes later and landed at Christchurch just before midnight. Both the landing and take-off at Hapupu were flown at the limits of the aircraft’s performance. Flt Lt Wrathall completed this difficult and inherently dangerous task in a thoroughly professional manner, to save life without incident or undue risk.
Errol
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Post by phil82 on Nov 13, 2013 21:03:55 GMT 12
Thank you Errol.As my conversation with Gary took place in the bar of the Officers' Mess at Shelly Bay I'm so pleased that you have confirmed my memory was largely accurate!Not mentioned there,[because it isn't germane to the award] but I'm fairly confident that as a Flt Cmdr he authorised the flight himself!
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Post by beagle on Nov 13, 2013 21:04:51 GMT 12
. Please don't hesitate to ask any questions about the Andover, and I will give you the good gen. whispers I was just curious on just how far we took the fleet on overseas trips. I know we took them to aussie and your chathams story. was the pacific islands quite regular ? did they go as far as PNG or even Singapore, Hawaii ? |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 13, 2013 21:09:56 GMT 12
Some went up to Iran and Somalia Beags for peacekeeping, as I'm sure you're aware. But I believe they were regularly flying around the Pacific islands. I recall seeing one land at Norfolk Island when I was there aged 9 in 1980. It was the first time I'd ever seen one and I was very impressed with the crouch mechanism.
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