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Post by baz62 on Dec 27, 2010 13:01:09 GMT 12
That shot of NZ1087 was likely taken at Woodborne post 1977 when she last flew (or did she fly to Woodborne after retirement?) when she was an instructional airframe then sent to Wigram early eighties for display in those markings.
Great photos and isn't NZ1066 shiny?
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Post by shorty on Dec 27, 2010 13:45:44 GMT 12
from Wikipedia:
Early photographic plates and films were sensitive to blue light only. Hermann Wilhelm Vogel discovered that the spectral sensitivity could be extended by dye sensitization. Orthochromatic film sensitive to the spectral range from green to blue was introduced in 1879 and was dominant until the mid-1920s, when panchromatic film sensitive to the entire visual spectrum became standard. All of these films were used to produce black-and-white images, regardless of spectral sensitivity.
Experiments with color photography were first made in 1861, but generally usable color films only became available in the 1930s. After World War II, much progress was made, and color became used for the overwhelming majority of photographs.
So the answer Dave is that Panchromatic was still fairly new and therefore probably more expensive and in this relatively isolated country probably harder to get (for the average Joe Blow in the street)
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Post by hairy on Dec 27, 2010 20:29:33 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 27, 2010 20:52:59 GMT 12
Thanks for that Shorty.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 27, 2010 21:05:30 GMT 12
Does anyone know what unit the Harvards NZ1100, 1101 and 1102 belonged to at Hobsonville in Hairy's photos? Were they based at Hobby?
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Post by NZ1009 on Dec 27, 2010 21:18:09 GMT 12
All RNZAF or RNZAF Museum official: NZ1076, NZ1091, maybe at Taieri?  NZ1065, Wigram  NZ906  NZ1002  NZ1007  NZ1010, NZ1016, NZ1029, NZ1019, NZ1024, NZ1034, NZ1040, NZ1044, NZ1050, NZ1049, NZ1046, NZ1053  NZ1060, NZ1065, NZ1066, NZ1079, NZ1085   NZ920  |
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Post by hairy on Dec 27, 2010 22:16:09 GMT 12
Does anyone know what unit the Harvards NZ1100, 1101 and 1102 belonged to at Hobsonville in Hairy's photos? Were they based at Hobby? Hi Dave, NZ1100, 1101 and 1102 were oddballs being Canadian Mk.IIBs and were instructional airframes. According to Charles Darbys, RNZAF The First Decade "......the three were delivered to 1 Technical Training School at Nelson in January 1945 and moved with that unit to Hobsonville in November." And from the ADF Serials site.................... NZ1100 - " Previously KF403. From RAF. Shipped to New Zealand on "Empire Castle" in September 1944 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 10 October 1944. Operated by TTS Hobsonville. Converted to INST149 at TTS Hobsonville in November 1951. Written off books Hobsonville 12 November 1951. " NZ1101 - "Previously KF407. From RAF. Shipped to New Zealand on "Empire Castle" in September 1944 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 10 October 1944. To No.6 Flying Boat Squadron, Hobsonville 15 May 1952. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender " NZ1102 - "Previously KF410. From RAF. Shipped to New Zealand on "Empire Castle" in September 1944 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 10 October 1944. Converted to INST138 at TTS Hobsonville 19 January 1950." |
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Post by NZ1009 on Dec 28, 2010 0:25:59 GMT 12
NZ948 (Copyright Kevin York)  All RNZAF or RNZAF Museum official:  NZ969, NZ982, NZ1002  NZ934, NZ939, NZ944, NZ948   Harvards in storage  These two originally appeared in the Airtruk thread   |
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Post by corsair67 on Dec 29, 2010 12:51:37 GMT 12
Thanks Sean, NZ1009 and Hairy for the latest batch of Harvard shots - some real classic images in that selection. Sean, the aerial images you included of Birdling's Flat airfield is much appreciated as I have always wondered whereabouts the airfield was actually located on Kaitorete Spit. Has anyone from the forum been there? I believe I was taken down there as a very young child a number of times with my Dad; but of course, I don't recall anything of it. Great shots of Christchurch too - I was even able to make out the gasworks and cathedral in one shot of NZ944.  |
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Post by baz62 on Dec 29, 2010 14:05:07 GMT 12
Thanks for that tip Craig, I now have that iconic shot of NZ944 over CHCH as my destop background! I emailed a copy to my folks as Dad grew up in Prebbleton during the war years (a small town close to and south of Wigram for those wondering where it is) and recalls lots of aircraft flying over the farm they managed.
Oh and Happy Birthday!
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Post by barf on Jan 10, 2011 11:55:53 GMT 12
The "White Fern" roundels place these pics in the 1958-59 time bracket. The "white fern" appeared in 1958 but only lasted about a year before being replaced by the "Silver" fern decals in 1959. Barf Nice Harvard formation. RNZAF Museum.  Do you happen to know the date of this picture? The reason I ask is NZ1016 seems to have a Mk2 rear fuselage, I noticed this a while back and no one seems to know why. I also have a picture of NZ1033 with a 6 piece rear canopy (therefore a early rear fuse as the rear canopy are not interchangeable). Cheers Mit |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 18, 2011 21:03:29 GMT 12
NZ954 (Inst.149).  Interesting . . . as NZ954 did not become INST149! NZ954 - Converted to INST142 with No. 1 TAF at Whenuapai 31 August 1950. NZ1100 - Converted to INST149 at TTS Hobsonville in November 1951. Explanation of INST149 being coded '54'? |
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Post by shorty on Jan 18, 2011 21:37:22 GMT 12
The shots of NZ1100 at Hobbie show it without twin venturis but these are present on INST149.
Also the Canadian built ones came without u/c doors (although may have been retrofitted)
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Post by oggie2620 on Jan 24, 2011 11:02:30 GMT 12
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Post by angelsonefive on Jan 24, 2011 11:35:29 GMT 12
Sorry to have to tell you that NZ1049 is no more. According to ADF Serials 1049 was disposed of by Govt Stores Board Tender on 26/10/62 and broken up in 1963. Link to ADF Serials : www.adf-serials.com/nz-serials/angels one five. |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 24, 2011 19:48:49 GMT 12
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Post by Damon on Jan 24, 2011 20:32:05 GMT 12
Very nice pictures! A great looking hangar.Lots of light compared to the previous hangar.
Did they keep the old hangar?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 24, 2011 20:52:11 GMT 12
Wow, that looks stunning. Well done to the musuem staff. The hangar looks great too. Is that Harvard a flying example?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 24, 2011 21:06:51 GMT 12
Damon - Yes
Dave - No
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 24, 2011 21:48:42 GMT 12
Didn't think so. Thanks for the photos Peter.
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