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Post by Damon on Oct 27, 2011 19:11:27 GMT 12
Probably a Blunty Dave..
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Post by shorty on Oct 27, 2011 20:07:31 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 27, 2011 20:38:26 GMT 12
ah right, yes. Thanks. It had me baffled for a bit.
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Post by NZ1009 on Oct 27, 2011 23:38:17 GMT 12
Not sure of the date Dave - was thinking the second photo might be a good candidate for your colouring talents? I have a large version of it.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 28, 2011 10:29:21 GMT 12
Yeah, possibly, I can give it a go if you want.
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Post by NZ1009 on Oct 30, 2011 19:22:26 GMT 12
All RNZAF or RNZAF Museum official, comments from ADF Serials, accidents (up until 1956) from NZ Archives: NZ905 Mk II 66-2698 Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Wairuna" in March 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 14 March 1941. To No.1 SFTS Wigram. Written off 31 October 1941 in crash 1 mile east of Irwell after pilot baled out. Written off books on 21 November 1944 as reduced to produce. NZ905 28-Jul1941 Waimakariri Undercarriage retracted NZ905 and NZ909 and Oxford NZ1231 23-Sep 1941 Collision on ground NZ905 31-Oct 1944 Wigram Forced landing  NZ914 Mk II Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Limerick" in May 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 20 May 1941. To No.1 SFTS Wigram. To No.2 SFTS, Woodbourne by March 1944. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for forty pounds. Remains noted at scrapyard in Bexley, Christchurch in January 1962 prior to melting down. NZ914 27-Feb 1943 Woodbourne Landed undercarriage up  NZ917 Mk II 66-2710 Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Limerick" in May 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 20 May 1941. To No.1 SFTS Wigram. To No.2 SFTS Woodbourne. Crashed and burned at Woodbourne during training flight at 0040 hours on 09 April 1943. The aircraft climbed to 200 feet after takeoff and then turned and dived into the ground. LAC Ralph Brownlie killed. Written off books at Woodbourne 11 May 1943. NZ917 31-Dec 1942 Woodbourne Forced landing NZ917 9-Apr 1943 Woodbourne Crashed, night, 1 dead   NZ919 Mk II 66-2712 Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Limerick" in May 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 20 May 1941. To No.1 SFTS Wigram. To No.2 SFTS, Woodbourne by March 1944. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for two hundred pounds. Price included Pratt and Whitney R1340-ANI engine serial number 8710. Broken up at Te Kuiti. NZ919 1-Sep 1941 Wigram Landed undercarriage up NZ919 20-Nov 1941 Wigram Landed undercarriage up NZ919 13-Oct 1942 Woodbourne Landed undercarriage up  NZ922 Mk II Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Limerick" in May 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 20 May 1941. To No.2 SFTS Woodbourne. To No.2 SFTS, Woodbourne by March 1944. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for two hundred pounds. Price included Pratt and Whitney R1340-ANI engine serial number 11483. NZ922 3-Nov 1941 Blenheim Undercarriage retracted NZ922 15-Feb 1944 Woodbourne Heavy landing NZ922 31-May 1945 Waimakariri Engine failure  NZ923 Mk II 66-2736 Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Limerick" in May 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 20 May 1941. To No.2 SFTS Woodbourne. Mid air collision with NZ920 on 26 May 1942 when NZ920 flew into the rear of the aircraft. The seriosly damaged aircraft was successfully landed by LAC R. Nairn. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for two hundred pounds. Price included Pratt and Whitney R1340-ANI engine serial number 11503. Remains noted at scrapyard in Bexley, Christchurch in January 1962 prior to melting down. NZ923 11-Jul 1942 Woodbourne Landed undercarriage up NZ950 Mk II 66-2763 Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Waiotapu" in May 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 05 July 1941. To ATS, Woodbourne by May 1944. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for two hundred pounds. Price included Pratt and Whitney R1340-ANI engine serial number 8730. Remains noted at scrapyard in Bexley, Christchurch in January 1962 prior to melting down. NZ950 30-Dec 1942 Woodbourne Landed undercarriage up NZ950 15-Mar 1944 Woodbourne Precautionary land NZ1078 Mk III Previously EZ246. From RAF/FAA lend-lease allocations. Shipped to New Zealand on "Hughli Gulf" in April 1944 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 03 May 1944. With No.2 (TAF) Squadron February 1955-22 November 1956. First Mk III to be converted to Mk 3* between May and November 1957. To storage at Wigram July 1962. Took part in Harvard 30th Anniversary Flypast over Christchurch on 22 March 1971. Force landed at Redwood on 18 November 1974, after engine failure but not badly damaged. Took part in final Harvard Flypast over Christchurch on 24 June 1977. Declared surplus to requirements and sold GSB tender number 022112 to W. Field, Nelson for $11250 on 2 July 1978. Registered to G. Martin and partner, Blenheim as ZK-ENG on 10 July 1978. To J. Greville, Auckland on 04 March 1982. To Harvard 78 Syndicate, Auckland on 01 June 1984. Airworthy and flying in New Zealand. NZ1078 20-Feb 1945 Wigram Undercarriage not locked This photo was one of several taken in October, 1944 when aircraft of the Intermediate Training Squadron of 1 SFTS Wigram performed a Victory Loan fly-past over Wellington.  |
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Post by Damon on Oct 30, 2011 20:51:35 GMT 12
Cracker pictures there.Very enjoyable.Thanks for posting them.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 31, 2011 0:33:46 GMT 12
Great shots NZ1009. It's amazing how many photos of each Harvard actually have been archived. It's great you have been able to delve into the collection for us all, thanks. As for the earlier shot you suggested might look good with some colour, well it didn't turn out too flash but here is an attempt using the version you posted and a little artist's licence.  |
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Post by NZ1009 on Oct 31, 2011 17:09:08 GMT 12
Actually Dave I think that it looks pretty good - to me the addition of colour just adds a whole new dimension to the photo. I will send you a PM is a few days to discuss taking this a step further.
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Post by planecrazy4 on Oct 31, 2011 20:43:38 GMT 12
hi im aware of some harvards painted in a scheme with numbers on the side that didnt correspond with the rnzaf serial no. can anyone shed some light on what aircraft these were and there corresponding numbers thanks
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 31, 2011 21:34:35 GMT 12
I think they were simply 'buzz' numbers - identification numbers so that others in the air or on the ground can i.d. the aircraft. Tiger Moths had them too so it was nothing to do with radio call numbers as they never had radios. So probably more so people could report low flying and they'd know who was flying the aircraft, etc.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 31, 2011 21:37:42 GMT 12
NZ1009, I'm glad you liked the picture.
I actually did this colourisation twice last night. I was damn near finished and suddenly thought I had better save it as I hadn't yet, and someone seemingly smacked into a powerpole somewhere in Cambridge as the power flicked off and on and that was followed by sirens. Of course the PC went off too, and I lost the lot and had to start again. Doh!
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Post by shorty on Nov 1, 2011 12:57:54 GMT 12
I think they were simply 'buzz' numbers - identification numbers so that others in the air or on the ground can i.d. the aircraft. Tiger Moths had them too so it was nothing to do with radio call numbers as they never had radios. So probably more so people could report low flying and they'd know who was flying the aircraft, etc. Oxfords as well. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 1, 2011 14:00:10 GMT 12
Turns out a 17 year old lad was killed when he hit the powerpole. Losing my photoshopping work seems pretty minor now. RIP
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Post by devon74 on Nov 2, 2011 18:32:17 GMT 12
Worked Harvard's 74-77 , there for the retiring function in 4 Hangar at Wigram - never have so many drunk so much in such a short time ! - sad to see them go after many years of service, but nice to see many still flying in NZ an around the world - have several photo's from this time and will post when I read the how to, Regards TF  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 2, 2011 18:55:39 GMT 12
Welcome to the forum. We're all looking forward to seeing those photos, and hearing a few Harvard stories too.
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Post by baz62 on Nov 2, 2011 21:20:16 GMT 12
Welcome to the forum. We're all looking forward to seeing those photos, and hearing a few Harvard stories too. Oh yes photos and stories about Harvards please and hurry man hurry! ;D |
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Post by NZ1009 on Nov 3, 2011 0:15:14 GMT 12
All RNZAF or RNZAF Museum official, comments from ADF Serials, accidents (up until 1956) from NZ Archives: NZ931 66-2744 Mk II Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Limerick" in May 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 20 May 1941. To No.2 SFTS Woodbourne. Declared surplus on SR294/57 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Mr. G. Bennett, Te Kuiti for two hundred pounds. Price included Pratt and Whitney R1340-S341 engine serial number 11519. Remains noted at scrapyard in Bexley, Christchurch in January 1962 prior to melting down. NZ931 and NZ923 25-Oct 1941 Blenheim Collision on ground  NZ932 Mk II 66-2745 Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Limerick" in May 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 20 May 1941. To No.2 SFTS Woodbourne. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for two hundred pounds. Price included Pratt and Whitnet R1340-ANI engine serial number 8747. Remains noted at scrapyard in Bexley, Christchurch in January 1962 prior to melting down. NZ932 21-May 1943 Woodbourne Landed undercarriage up NZ932 5-May 1944 Nelson Forced down, bad weather NZ932 2-Oct 1944 Wigram Taxy accident  NZ987 76-3844 Mk II Previously AJ874. From British Purchasing Mission contracts. Shipped to New Zealand on "Hauraki" in December 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 05 January 1942. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for forty pounds. Remains noted at scrapyard in Bexley, Christchurch in January 1962 prior to melting down. NZ987 and NZ922 20-Apr 1945 Wigram Collided on ground  NZ983 Mk II 76-3840 Previously AJ870. From British Purchasing Mission contracts. Shipped to New Zealand on "Hauraki" in December 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 05 January 1942. With No.2 SFTS, Woodbourne by March 1942. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for forty pounds. NZ983 22-May 1945 Wigram Undercarriage not locked NZ992 76-3849 Mk II Previously AJ879. From British Purchasing Mission contracts. Shipped to New Zealand on "Hauraki" in December 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 05 January 1942. To ATS, Woodbourne by May 1944. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for forty five pounds. NZ992 11-Jul 1944 Lake Grassmere Heavy braking  NZ960 Mk II Issued to NZ under Empire Air Training Scheme. Shipped to New Zealand on "Waiotapu" in May 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 20 May 1941. With No.2 SFTS, Woodbourne by March 1942. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for forty pounds. NZ996 76-3853 Mk II Previously AJ883. From British Purchasing Mission contracts. Shipped to New Zealand on "Hauraki" in December 1941 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 05 January 1942. To ATS, Woodbourne by May 1944. Converted to INST166 with No.2 TAF Squadron at Ohakea in February 1950. Brought back on charge in May 1953. Declared surplus on SR416/58 and sold by GSB tender number 7078 to Bennett Aviation Ltd., Te Kuiti for two hundred pounds. Price included Pratt and Whitney R1340-ANI engine serial number 8994. NZ996 22-Aug 1944 Delta Landed undercarriage up NZ996 11-Sep 1944 Omaka Damaged in air NZ996 9-Apr 1945 Nelson Precautionary landing  NZ1007 - Mk IIA Harvards from 1 Flying Training School, Wigram, in the early 1950s. These aircraft, which were received in 1942 and 1943, all became instructional airframes with RNZAF Technical Training Schools, except NZ1041, which was transferred in 1972 to Air New Zealand for apprentice training. . Previously EX185. From RAF/FAA lend-lease allocations. Shipped to New Zealand on "Waiotapu" in September 1942 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 22 September 1942. With No.25 Squadron, seagrave from late 1943. With No.4 (TAF) Squadron 19 June 1953-25 August 1955. Thirty third Mk IIA to be converted to Mk 2A* between August 1954 and May 1957. Converted to INST188 with No.4 TTS Woodbourne 22 August 1963. Written off books Ohakea 19 September 1963. Sold to Engine Support Inc., Florida, USA in 1978. To The Aircraft Preservation Group, Auckland. Sold and shipped to Australia in February 1980. To B. Simpson, Glenhaven, NSW as VH-HAR NZ1007 22-Feb 1944 Seagrove Panel blew off high speed NZ1007 and Kittyhawk NZ3218 4-Jul 1944 Ardmore Collided with Kittyhawk NZ3218 NZ1007 5-Mar 1950 Taieri Undercarriage not locked NZ1007 23-Sep 1951 Invercargill Swung landing NZ1007 9-Jun 1955 Levels Precautionary landing  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 3, 2011 0:47:59 GMT 12
Fantastic shots! I love that one of NZ987 and its friends flying over the valley. The Woodbourne tarmac shots are great too. What's going on with the fuselages on the trucks? Disposal or repair? They look like WWII colour schemes so must be repair?
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Post by flyjoe180 on Nov 3, 2011 13:39:45 GMT 12
These photographs are brilliant.
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