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Post by shorty on Jul 29, 2012 9:49:37 GMT 12
Whilst looking through the RNZAF News magazines of the 1960s to locate an article for another thread on this Board (which wasn't there anyway as it ceased ppublication shortly prior to the event I was hunting) I came across a remarkable photo of the tail of a Harvard with THAT Coat of Arms adorning it, the Harvard which featured on Post Number 1 on this thread! It was in the June 1961 Issue (No. 28) and included in the photo was the artist who applied the design, one LAC Eric Taylor, and the station was Woodbourne! This was on page 5, article headed "A Man of Many Parts". See what you think? Apparently LAC Taylor had been at Woodbourne since he arrived from the UK in July 1952 - how would he have managed to stay there that long? David D when I was doing my AF Mechs course in 1968 he was a Sgt at 4 TTS teaching us aerodynamics. He was known to us as "De Hav" as he was easy to lead astray into telling us about his time working at de Havs during the war. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 30, 2012 10:43:01 GMT 12
Great work David, that solves the Coat of Arms mystery all together.
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Iggy
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Post by Iggy on Aug 12, 2012 8:50:38 GMT 12
Just to add a couple more Harvard photos that I have not seen on the site before : I suspect the following, well-known, RNZAF Musuem photo was taken shortly before the first photo shown in Reply #10 on this thread. At least the side-numbers, colour scheme, aircraft trailing smoke and shadows match.  The following photo appeared in Wings, September, 1982 with the caption that it was taken over Lake Grassmere. In fact it is near Lake Ellesmere - Greenpark Huts is obscured by the wingtip. A subsequent photo appears inside the front cover of "The History of New Zealand Aviation - Ewing, MacPherson". The photo of six Harvards over Lake Ellesmere was taken on 11 December 1975 by Ross MacPherson from the back seat of Harvard NZ1060 with Flt Lt Iggy Wood at the controls. The six Harvards were being flown by members of the ARFIC (Active Reserve Flying Instructors Course) whose names escape me.  |
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Post by aeromedia on Aug 12, 2012 19:57:05 GMT 12
David Duxbury, I have PM'd you. Link to PM's appears top right hand corner of header page. Thanks.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 12, 2012 22:38:06 GMT 12
For anyone wondering, Iggy has added additional info in the small text of the post he quoted above.
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Post by davidd on Aug 13, 2012 14:39:01 GMT 12
Aeromedia,
Cannot locate any PM for me on this Board - has it gone AWOL??
David D
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Post by baz62 on Aug 13, 2012 15:13:06 GMT 12
Are you logged in David otherwise it won't show. Should display "Hey davidd, you have 11 messages, 1 are new." top right otherwise it shows the Log in there.
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Post by aeromedia on Aug 13, 2012 15:19:22 GMT 12
David, you could alternatively send me, Peter, an email to
aeromedia@xtra.co.nz
and I can get back to you from there.
Cheers.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 13, 2012 15:36:04 GMT 12
David, maybe Peter PM'd your other account, you somehow ended up with two, the other being davidduxbury as seen on the previous page.
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Post by davidd on Aug 13, 2012 17:07:20 GMT 12
Dave H,
Hadn't noticed I had two accounts! Could you please nuke the daviduxbury one as on previuos page to leave me with just the davidd one? WOuld be appreciated. However I still cannot find any messagee for me, looked in both accounts. Will contact aeromedia directly.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 13, 2012 17:47:02 GMT 12
Hi David,
I have deleted that older account. Cheers.
Dave
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Sept 2, 2012 11:56:19 GMT 12
Further to Sean's reply #244 (also RNZAF official) Birdling's flat?  |
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Post by baz62 on Sept 9, 2012 9:30:02 GMT 12
Some MKIIIs - All RNZAF or RNZAF Museum official, comments from ADF Serials, accidents (up until 1956) from NZ Archives: NZ1090 Mk III Previously EZ359. From RAF/FAA lend-lease allocations. Shipped to New Zealand on "Epprichbank" in July 1944 and assembled at Hobsonville. BOC 24 July 1944. Stored at Woodbourne after withdrawal from service with No.1 FTS. Converted to INST178 with No.4 TTS Woodbourne 24 October 1957. Sold by GSB tender during 1978 to Engine Support Inc., Florida, USA. To C. Darby, Auckland 1978. Stored at Dairy Flat by December 1979. To Australia for C. Pay and H. Brunton in May 1983. Entered the Australian Civil Aircraft Register as VH-VFM on 21 January 2004 to F. Murray, West Cessnock, NSW, Australia. NZ1090 7-Apr 1954 Wigram Canopy blew out  This photo of NZ1090 was taken recently at an RAAF display up in Darwin. The Harvard was on static display along with a Tiger Moth and (YES!) an Auster. Photo credit to John Ellis.  And the thread on WIX showing this photo and the Tiger and the Auster: warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=46812 |
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Post by kingsman11 on Sept 14, 2012 15:52:24 GMT 12
Picture of NZ1079 at Love Field Dallas, Texas USA. Pilot/owner Gerald W. Morgan "Gerry" Still flying after an extensive annual inspection, and avionics upgrade. Current USA/FAA registration N101NZ Attachments:
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Post by nzav8a on Sept 26, 2012 17:27:22 GMT 12
Have just been sent a pic of NZ1044 On the move at Christcurch November 2002  |
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Post by jurisnz on Oct 2, 2012 22:41:08 GMT 12
Hi to all. Three more for the Harvard pile! A NZ Herald photo: Captioned 'New Harvard plane for RNZAF' (Passed by censor) Appears to be at Hobby. Overall yellow with black anti-glare panel.
NZ944 inside the hangar at MOTAT in the camo scheme.
NZ1015 with all the 'dangly bits'! Wigram? Cheers, Pete M. P.s. Dave, I've checked out all 14 pages of the thread this time!!!!! I may be able to clear up why 1015 has all those bits hung on to it. It was a joke! I was one of the guys involved. It happened in the last days of the Harvard's service. we reckoned it looked great. The 500 pounders were fibre-glass dummies from the Museum collection The racks and practice bombs are real. Harvards to my knowledge never flew with 500 lb bombs. But perhaps they are 250 pounders? jurisnz |
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Post by jurisnz on Oct 20, 2012 22:54:14 GMT 12
All RNZAF or RNZAF Museum official Dave - Another one from the same sortie  Presumably a hangar at Wigram?  It is No 1 Hangar, Wigram - currently the Air Force Museum display hall. The left side of the hangar is the airfield side of the hangar. The doors in the side wall lead to PTS offices. The open hangar door faces out to 2 Hangar. In my time the other end of the hangar was used for devon aircraft. Every work day morning there was a frantic effort to get all these aircraft, plus the Devons out on the line, ready for the students, before 0830! jurisnz   Mt. Cook in the background, Green Saddle, High Peak, Middle Peak and Low Peak left to right, South Face (faces Hermitage) at right  |
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Post by jurisnz on Oct 22, 2012 7:19:26 GMT 12
NZ1091 was another Harvard that enjoyed a long and active service life. Eventually sold by GSB tender number 022107 to W. Williams, Mount Maunganui and became ZK-ENC with W J D & S M A Williams, Tauranga in June 1978. At Wigram 24Aug1964: Two days later it appeared wearing a different exhaust system and undertook a test flight with this equipment. At the time, I believed it was an attempt to reduce the noise levels in response to complaints from nearby residents, but looking at it now it looks more like a smoke-generating apparatus. There appeared to be a certain amount of 'this is new, how exciting' about it at that time. Does anyone know the history of Harvard smoke in NZ, was this the first time this had been attempted here? I was in 5 hangar the mid 60s. and I recall there were efforts made to reduce the the Harvard's noise level - without success. On the other hand that long pipe without the fish-tail end was later used for smoke generation. In that case one would expect to see the top of the diesel tank strapped to the rear seat. At Wigram 26Aug1964:   NZ1092 followed a similar career path to '91, remaining active until sold by GSB tender number 02103 to NZ Warbirds Association, Auckland for $1000 on 27 June 1978. Became ZK-WAR with T T Bland & G S Smith, Auckland in September 1978. At Wigram 24Aug1964: Harvard NZ1096 was eventually sold by GSB tender number 022107 to W. Williams, Mount Maunganui and became ZK-END with W S Bell & R O Dahlberg, Mt Maunganui in June 1978 At Wigram 26Aug1964: I was going through this wonderful Harvard photo thread yet again (needed a Harvard fix real baaaaad ;D) when I noticed something I missed about the photo of NZ1091 with the extra long exhaust pipe. Like Peter I took it to be a test of the smoke system as apart from the flared end it is very much the same as the standard smoke pipe fitted to the Red Checker Harvards. And of course everyone knows that trying to make a Harvard quieter by muffling the exhaust is missing the obvious: the prop makes the most noise of all. And then I looked at the prop. It has SQUARE tips!!!!!! I had never noticed that last time. So maybe they were trying to make them quieter as the US put square tipped props on the T6-G for that very reason!! |
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Post by Damon on Oct 22, 2012 8:31:17 GMT 12
Please tell us why your repeating these posts jurisnz ? Any more information come to light?
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Post by shorty on Oct 22, 2012 8:40:01 GMT 12
Jurisnz, what is the reason for just repeating a prvieous post with no additions?
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