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Post by harvard1041 on Oct 26, 2012 22:03:15 GMT 12
Yes - 1099 had a wing change ...and other work as a result of it's ground loop - glad to hear it's back flying. Here are some shots of it in Dec 10 - at July Pay's place at Tyabb. Great collection and friendly people.   ..old damaged wing  They also have 1051 - in a different guise  and a pretty nice P-40F, Mustang and Ryan STM    Cheers Hvd1041 |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 26, 2012 22:33:35 GMT 12
Great shots John, it's nice to see NZ1099 still looks well cared for and in top notch condition. That is a great collection that Judy Pay has there.
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Post by baz62 on Oct 28, 2012 12:57:31 GMT 12
I was about to ask what was wrong with the old wing until my eye went along towards the wing tip and I saw all the wrinkled damage!
Possibly a repairable wing if a jig is available?
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Post by obiwan27 on Oct 28, 2012 21:11:06 GMT 12
Really when did that happen? That is a shame,as Dave said she was a wonderful example restored to flight. I even have a photo of her taken at the Airshow at Wigram in 73 parked by the HQ building. That would be this one:  |
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Post by baz62 on Oct 29, 2012 16:47:17 GMT 12
Really when did that happen? That is a shame,as Dave said she was a wonderful example restored to flight. I even have a photo of her taken at the Airshow at Wigram in 73 parked by the HQ building. That would be this one: Correct! |
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Post by beagle on Oct 29, 2012 17:02:28 GMT 12
2 questions.
what actually happens in a ground loop. I get images in my head of something doing loops but don't think thats it,
and the other is Lyndon Knowles had a harvard which her was rebuilding which apparantely was pretty immaculate. I heard he sold it. What number was it and is it still in country etc.
This would be going back 10 years.
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Post by ErrolC on Oct 29, 2012 17:36:33 GMT 12
Here's an example - in a T-6 even!
And there is a whole 'nother type of ground loop - my gf and I had each heard of one, and not the other!
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Post by Damon on Oct 29, 2012 18:04:16 GMT 12
The Lyndon Knowles Harvard you refer to in NZ1051. See previous page and pictures taken by Harvard1041 . The polished natural metal Harvard with red cowling was NZ1051.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 18:05:06 GMT 12
I believe Lyndon's was the shiny Judy Pay example on the previous page.
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Post by beagle on Oct 29, 2012 18:21:53 GMT 12
cheers
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 18:43:39 GMT 12
Must've posted at the same time! Whoops.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Oct 29, 2012 21:26:54 GMT 12
what actually happens in a ground loop. The back end tries to overtake the front end, sometimes with disastrous results for the undercarriage and/or the wingtips. " . . . a ground loop is a rapid rotation of a fixed-wing aircraft in the horizontal plane while on the ground. Aerodynamic forces may cause the advancing wing to rise, which may then cause the other wingtip to touch the ground. In severe cases (particularly if the ground surface is soft), the inside wing can dig in, causing the aircraft to swing violently or even cartwheel. In powered airplanes, the ground loop phenomenon is predominantly associated with aircraft that have conventional landing gear, due to the center of gravity being positioned behind the main wheels. It may also occur with tricycle landing gear if excessive load is applied to the nosewheel, a condition known as wheel-barrowing. If the aircraft heading is slightly different from the aircraft's direction of motion, a side force is exerted on the wheels. If this force is in front of the center of gravity, the resulting moment rotates the aircraft's heading even further from its direction of motion. This increases the force and the process reinforces itself. To avoid a ground loop, the pilot must respond to any turning tendency quickly, while sufficient control authority is available to counteract it. Once the aircraft rotates beyond this point, there is nothing the pilot can do to stop it from rotating further." |
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Post by NZ1009 on Nov 4, 2012 21:37:43 GMT 12
A couple of images from the Internet which I have not seen before. Unable to find details of owners so happy to credit/remove them if there is an issue.   |
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Post by baz62 on Feb 23, 2013 13:40:03 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 23, 2013 14:54:13 GMT 12
Nice shots Baz. She won her class: Best Dalmatian bitch. 7 more wins and she's a champion. Well done Teresa. |
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Post by mit on Feb 24, 2013 8:51:02 GMT 12
She won her class: Best Dalmatian bitch. 7 more wins and she's a champion. Does four more wins make her an Ace? |
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 26, 2013 14:29:26 GMT 12
Just looked through this entire thread for the first time - my boss would kill me - and there are not only some magnificent shots in there but also a HUGE amount of historical data. The Harvard/T6/SNJ is one of my favourite machines. Never get tired of that prop sound on take-off. Lots of nice shots of Dave and Carolyne Salter's machine and also Dougies "Harold" from Victoria. I was fortunate enough to meet the first of the disposed Harvards that flew across the ditch. With one I ended up in the Customs area with the driver who told Customs that I was coming "out the back" of the public area at Sydney's Kingsford-Smith airport. They refused but when he said that without me it was not going anywhere they relented........ suffice it to say that hand cranking it on the ramp next to a 747 with surprised faces in all the windows was a memory I shall not forget.
I love that camo/yellow/yellow fuselage panel scheme and if the Lotto Gods ever smile that's me....... were the 'buzz numbers" red and blue depending on the flight or another colour that I have missed?
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Post by baz62 on Mar 26, 2013 15:49:18 GMT 12
Yes I think you are correct although i only know this for sure on the overall yellow MKII Harvards I've seen photos of (NZ1050 was in a scheme like this for a while). Someone more knowledgeable will know for sure. And in that case the buzz numbers may not actually represent the serial number? Not sure on that one, I do know the buzz numbers were the last two or three of the serial in the colour scheme you mention eg: NZ971 was 71 while NZ1041 would have 041
Yeah the Harvard, what a machine. I was lucky to grow up when they were still in service here and got to see the mass flypast in 1977. Went right overhead my school (Burnside High) while I was kicking a rugby ball around with a mate after school.
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Post by baz62 on Mar 26, 2013 15:53:48 GMT 12
She won her class: Best Dalmatian bitch. 7 more wins and she's a champion. Does four more wins make her an Ace? Oh Mit you scally wag you! No but 8 makes her a champion and she is now, after last weekends show, halfway there! |
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Post by Ces on Oct 10, 2013 11:51:58 GMT 12
I am amazed than NZ1009 came up with all this history on NZ 1025 so rapidly for us to enjoy. Much appreciated. |
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