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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2021 16:29:28 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 5, 2021 23:27:01 GMT 12
Such a waste.
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Post by Mustang51 on Dec 5, 2021 23:38:20 GMT 12
Poor thing
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 14:40:39 GMT 12
As I walked around taking photos I just kept sighing audibly and shaking my head. delticman said "Well, it looks like a Harvard to me!"
It doesn't seem to show up in my photos but in person the red parts of the roundels look as though another coat or two of paint is needed.
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Post by Antonio on Dec 6, 2021 17:58:49 GMT 12
 It looks like a duck!.......
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Post by delticman on Dec 6, 2021 20:34:34 GMT 12
Better looking than the non flying surfboard.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 17:26:25 GMT 12
Better looking than the non flying surfboard. As I alluded to on the day, agree to disagree!  |
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Post by vultee43 on Dec 10, 2021 18:22:09 GMT 12
Only fibreglass belongs on poles.
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Post by Antonio on Apr 2, 2022 12:43:09 GMT 12
Interesting photo from the AFMoNZ site:  DM123-51 North American P-51D Mustangs of 4 Territorial Air Force Squadron lined up beside a North American Harvard. Royal Air Force Station, Taieri. No roundel on the starboard wing. Was this intended to be a TAF thing at some stage? |
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Post by tbf2504 on Apr 2, 2022 13:00:19 GMT 12
No the post-war roundels were in all positions. I could be that the starboard wing was a replacement (following a ground loop?) and the painters hadn't go around to replacing the roundel. There were
many variations on Harvard schemes in the early 1950s as they transitioned from wartime to post-war flying
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Post by axelford on Apr 15, 2022 13:55:34 GMT 12
Okay, just found out about the fate of NZ918 after finding a strange video of a "Harvard weather vane" and I think I'm going to be sick, at least in it's former position it could be enjoyed close up! Who allowed this?
I'll try and see the bright side of this that maybe vandals would have a hard time getting to it?
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Post by markrogers on Apr 15, 2022 16:00:21 GMT 12
Unbelievable *sighs*
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 20, 2022 16:24:25 GMT 12
Marty Muller has sent these two scans through of NZ1083 (which is still in the RNZAF with the Air Force Heritage Flight). An interesting logo on the side there. Looking at the cowl colour, I wonder if this was while with the Central Flying School of the RNZAF?   |
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Post by retiredav8r on Apr 20, 2022 16:37:04 GMT 12
Wonder what it would take to save 918, obvious from the photo's it is only sitting their for someone's fancy weathervane. I see since these photo's taken 918 has been converted into a children's slide. Such a waste.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2022 14:07:20 GMT 12
Wonder what it would take to save 918, obvious from the photo's it is only sitting their for someone's fancy weathervane. I see since these photo's taken 918 has been converted into a children's slide. Such a waste. Or has someone gotten their wires crossed about the fibreglass replica in Pahiatua which wears NZ918 markings? |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 12, 2022 19:12:12 GMT 12
The following two articles, both published in the Press on the 12th of November 1962, tell of the demise of Harvard NZ1094. Before the articles, this is what NZDF Serials says:
PILOT RESCUED FROM SEA
Amphibian Arrives Just Before Dark
(N.Z. Press Association) NEW PLYMOUTH, November 11.
With only seconds to spare an amphibian aircraft snatched a young R.N.Z.A.F. pilot to safety from the Tasman Sea, 70 miles north of New Plymouth, on Saturday night. The rescue was made more than two hours after the pilot had parachuted into the sea from his smoking aircraft. The pilot is Flying Officer G. G. Millward, of Whenuapai, aged 22, whose parents are Mr and Mrs G. W. Millward, of 110 Mungavia avenue, Porirua East.
In spite of his ordeal, Flying Officer Millward suffered only slight shock and exposure and was up and about at the station hospital at Whenuapai today, although still under observation.
Engaged in a navigational exercise, Flying Officer Millward, who is flying wing adjutant at Whenuapai, was returning to his base from Ohakea on Saturday afternoon when his troubles began. His aircraft was a Harvard attached to station headquarters. Whenuapai. He had flown from Whenuapai to the Palmerston North airport on Saturday morning and then to Ohakea.
He took off from Ohakea at 3.35 p.m. and made for Hawera, where he landed and stayed a few minutes to see his sister, Mrs J. E. Richardson, of 70 Argyle street. He was checking his navigational instruments about 5.15 p.m. when he noticed a small amount of smoke beginning to come into the cockpit.
“I then rapidly checked all the equipment to ensure it was nothing electrical,” he said in a telephone interview today. He said the fault did not appear to be electrical but he still did not know what caused the smoke. The cockpit filled so rapidly with smoke that within seconds he could not see his instruments. He then sent a distress signal by radio and bailed out at 3500 feet.
Message Picked Up
The message was picked up by an R.N.ZA.F. Dakota of No. 42 Squadron which was taking the Chief of Air Staff, Air Vice-Marshal I. G. Morrison, from Rukuhia, Hamilton, to Wellington. The Dakota was at that stage the nearest aircraft to the position given—15 miles north-west of Tairua Point—and it began a search of the area. Twenty minutes after the distress signal was received the dinghy was sighted from the Dakota by Mrs K. E Fennessy, wife of the previous commander of the Te Rapa Air Force station, Wing Commander Fennessy, who was also aboard the aircraft.
A few seconds later the Chief of Air Staff’s wife also spotted the dinghy and the Dakota began circling the spot to keep the craft in sight. The Search and Rescue Organisation at Wellington had been alerted and an R.N.ZA.F. Bristol Freighter from the Transport Support Unit and a Devon from No. 42 Squadron, Ohakea, were put into the search. These two aircraft, with the freighter arriving first, joined the Dakota about 6.40 pm. They assisted in keeping the dinghy in sight but, with the light failing, this became increasingly difficult.
Amphibian Ready
A Grumman Widgeon amphibian aircraft of Tourist Air Travel, Ltd., Auckland, which had been ready to take off if called on, was ordered to attempt to pick up the pilot. The pilots of the Grumman Widgeon were Captain B. Packer, of 29 Mariri road, Onehunga, and Captain J. R Grimes, of Parnell road, Auckland. When the amphibian was still 10 minutes away, those in the search area momentarily lost sight of the dinghy. They realised that they would be unable to keep it in view much longer. Then the Grumman Widgeon arrived, guided by the Bristol Freighter, and a smoke canister was dropped near the dinghy to mark the dinghy’s location.
The amphibian made one quick pass over the dinghy and then landed at 7.35 p.m. To those in the air watching the rescue the next 11 minutes before the Grumman Widgeon became airborne seemed hours.
The rescue plane went back to Whenuapai, where Flying Officer Millward was admitted to the station hospital soon after the plane landed at 8.50 p.m.
An inquiry would be held into the loss of the Harvard, an R.N.Z.A.F. spokesman said yesterday.
Pilot “In A Hurry”
(N.Z. Press Association) NEW PLYMOUTH, Nov. 11.
Flying Officer Millward, describing his experience today, said that with dense smoke filling the cockpit, he sent his distress signal, switched everything off and bailed out. “I was in too much of a hurry to repeat the signal,” he said. “I didn’t want to be sitting in the middle of a fire.”
He knew his Mayday message would be picked up because he had previously heard other aircraft talking on the same frequency. Flying Officer Millward did not have time to invert the plane. He scrambled out of the cockpit and dived over the side. With the engine cut the plane was rapidly losing height and he knew it would stall and crash into the sea.
Flying Officer Millward did not see the plane crash because he was facing the wrong way while descending on his parachute. “I did get a good view of Mount Egmont though,” he said. “I was nine or 10 miles from the coast and the weather was perfect”
There were no waves, but a fairly high swell was running when Flying Officer Millward hit the sea. He slipped out of his parachute harness just before plunging deep into the Tasman. He used carbon dioxide bottles to inflate first his lifejacket and then the rubber dinghy which had been attached to his parachute.
Bitterly Cold
Although he was bitterly cold he found conditions were otherwise good. About 20 minutes after he had landed the R.N.Z.A.F. Dakota carrying Air Vice-Marshal I. G. Morrison came into view about two miles away. "I fired rockets to attract attention. I knew because of the swell it would be hard to find me,” Flying Officer Millward said.
“I was quite prepared to spend the night there. I was all tucked in and prepared for it when the Grumman Widgeon arrived.”
Using the paddles attached to the rubber dinghy, Flying Officer Millward paddled across to the aircraft and after two attempts grabbed a wing float and was assisted aboard by one of the two pilots. It was the first time Flying Officer Millward had bailed out since he joined the Air Force as a pilot at the beginning of 1958. He has been at Whenuapai since June and before that was two years and a half in Fiji.
Flying Officer Millward arrived at Auckland wearing a singlet, two pairs of overalls and a pair of socks contributed by the two pilots of the rescue aircraft. Captain B. Packer and Captain J. R. Grimes.
Captain Grimes was piloting one of the company’s three Grumman Widgeons on a charter flight close to the area in which Flying Officer Millward bailed out. Captain Grimes diverted his aircraft to the area when requested by air traffic control, Auckland, and finally reached Auckland about 6 p.m. Air traffic control had asked that the plane then be refuelled and placed on stand-by, but when Captain Grimes returned another Grumman Widgeon was standing by fully fuelled. “At 6.20 p.m. we got the action command and took off,” Captain Packer said.
It was already getting dark when the aircraft took off from Hobsonville to meet the Bristol Freighter at Gannet Island.
“The Grumman Widgeon is not built for the open sea, and I would not make a landing like that again for fun,” Captain Packer said in describing the rescue. Twice the aircraft taxied close to the dinghy and cut its motors to drift right up to it. The first time, however, Flying Officer Millward could not get close enough because of the danger of the propellers as he bobbed up and down.
“Then he got hold of a float and we were able to get him aboard.” Captain Packer said. “Fortunately, he was not injured and was able to help himself. Captain Grimes assisted him aboard while I concentrated on getting airborne.”
Captain Packer said that civil twilight, the latest time tor landing without night flying facilities occurred just after 7.30 p.m. on Saturday. The amphibian took off from the sea about 7.47 p.m. “I had almost lost the horizon.”
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Post by baz62 on Jun 24, 2022 9:44:20 GMT 12
I googled RNZAF Harvards just now to look at a particular detail and found a photo of NZ1038 painted in Brazilian Air Force demonstration team markings! But although described as NZ1038 the photo of her at the start of her rebuild clearly shows her wearing INST 176 on the fuselage which was NZ1086. She is registred as VH-AYO and construction number 88-13187 but this is for NZ1038 not 1086. The only clue is the wings are actually from NZ1038. So I wonder why the used that identity rather than the fuselage? She's not flying around in her original RNZAF colour scheme but I'm just curious. Photo of VH-AYO |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 24, 2022 10:31:46 GMT 12
That is rather an eye catching paint scheme.
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Post by planecrazy on Aug 13, 2022 20:15:30 GMT 12
Finally got around to coping some old video across to digital, got a feeling "1099"
was ferried across the ditch in the early 2000's, would be grateful if someone can
date this flight?
Thank you.......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 11:56:36 GMT 12
Hi Peter, I have "del. via Norfolk Island and Lord Howe Island to Albury NSW 10.11.03 by Stephen Death".
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NZ918 Mangatainoka 271121 Zac Yates by Zac Yates, on Flickr
NZ918 Mangatainoka 271121 Zac Yates by Zac Yates, on Flickr
NZ918 Mangatainoka 271121 Zac Yates by Zac Yates, on Flickr
NZ918 Mangatainoka 271121 Zac Yates by Zac Yates, on Flickr
NZ918 Mangatainoka 271121 Zac Yates by Zac Yates, on Flickr
NZ918 Mangatainoka 271121 Zac Yates by Zac Yates, on Flickr
NZ918 Mangatainoka 271121 Zac Yates by Zac Yates, on Flickr
NZ918 Mangatainoka 271121 Zac Yates by Zac Yates, on Flickr
NZ918 Mangatainoka 271121 Zac Yates by Zac Yates, on Flickr
It looks like a duck!.......
