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Post by Kereru on Jan 9, 2024 16:43:15 GMT 12
If anyone knows and I'm sure someone will? Peter Lewis?
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Post by Venomnut on Jan 9, 2024 18:27:55 GMT 12
 92 sporting some ordnance! nice! |
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Post by planewriting on Jan 9, 2024 21:21:08 GMT 12
If anyone knows and I'm sure someone will? Peter Lewis? Peter might but not necessarily however I do know because I was there that day and took some glider photos - 26 February 1983. Peter Layne Auckland Gliding Club historian |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 9, 2024 21:39:46 GMT 12
Thanks Peter.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 9, 2024 21:41:14 GMT 12
Nicely spotted regarding the bombs, Jason!
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Post by planecrazy on May 10, 2024 22:45:33 GMT 12
Pretty sure 85 was one the first ex military aeroplanes to go on the civil register
in Australia as a warbird, happy to be corrected or told more? Some old footage
at an airshow up at Harvey Bay in Queensland.
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 13, 2024 22:20:06 GMT 12
Does anyone have photos of RNZAF Harvards loaded with rockets, or even better, firing them? They definitely fired air to ground rockets in the early 1950s.
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Post by Antonio on May 14, 2024 8:45:35 GMT 12
See this pic from the Ferrymead News thread: "I wonder if Barrie and Denys spotted this on the Harvard racks" "This is a rocket sequencer and relay/resistance box similar to a Mossie one. Was this a local mod?" |
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Post by planecrazy on May 30, 2024 13:44:40 GMT 12
Found some old footage of NZ1061 at Temora, been in Australia since 1979.
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Post by Antonio on May 30, 2024 13:48:02 GMT 12
Paint scheme has survived the test of time.
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Post by aeromedia on May 30, 2024 14:48:01 GMT 12
Zac - good to see your list of New Zealand Harvards. I thought you had missed NZ1061 but see you have recorded it as NZ1060 but with the notes of NZ1061. What I was really going to say is that two more ex RNZAF Harvards have surfaced and the skeletal remains for them both are at Classic Flyers. I understand that both of them spent time in the Te Kuiti graveyard but somehow escaped. I am working on the source of these leading to their arrival in Tauranga. One of them has traces of the traditional yellow Harvard paint. Camtech and I have searched the first to arrive high and low for evidence of an identity to no avail. The second one has only recently arrived and I have still to have a good look at it. Watch this space! I am extremely keen to pics of these recently resurfaced Harvard frames. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 16, 2024 14:11:48 GMT 12
The remains of NZ946 are now with Chris Rudge.
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Post by ifly4u on Jul 15, 2024 23:15:24 GMT 12
NZ1091 was another Harvard that enjoyed a long and active service life. Eventually sold by GSB tender number 022107 to W. Williams, Mount Maunganui and became ZK-ENC with W J D & S M A Williams, Tauranga in June 1978. At Wigram 24Aug1964: Two days later it appeared wearing a different exhaust system and undertook a test flight with this equipment. At the time, I believed it was an attempt to reduce the noise levels in response to complaints from nearby residents, but looking at it now it looks more like a smoke-generating apparatus. There appeared to be a certain amount of 'this is new, how exciting' about it at that time. Does anyone know the history of Harvard smoke in NZ, was this the first time this had been attempted here? At Wigram 26Aug1964:   NZ1092 followed a similar career path to '91, remaining active until sold by GSB tender number 02103 to NZ Warbirds Association, Auckland for $1000 on 27 June 1978. Became ZK-WAR with T T Bland & G S Smith, Auckland in September 1978. At Wigram 24Aug1964: Harvard NZ1096 was eventually sold by GSB tender number 022107 to W. Williams, Mount Maunganui and became ZK-END with W S Bell & R O Dahlberg, Mt Maunganui in June 1978 At Wigram 26Aug1964: |
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Post by ifly4u on Jul 15, 2024 23:32:18 GMT 12
Hi guys. First time posting here so apologies if I screw up what I need to do!
In seeing the Peter Lewis's photos of NZ1091, I think I can add some more detail on the mystery of the long exhaust pipe. It seems highly likely this had nothing to do with smoke generation or preventing fire from over-priming on cold days. I believe this was an RNZAF experiment at Wigram to reduce noise - which the Harvard to prone to doing at high RPM. Most of the noise comes from the propeller (high tip speed/mach number). What people may not have noticed in the photo was the fact that the propeller tips have been cut off. This would certainly reduce the noise and the exhaust design would reduce it further. Last weekend, I probably acquired this very propeller from Mike Nichols. He told me it had been used for noise reduction experiments. It did what is was suppose to but it also greatly reduced the aircraft performance so the idea was abandoned. I thought there must be something written about it somewhere so a Google search found this forum post and showed the cut-off blades fitted. It fits with the mystery of the long exhaust. I'll see of I can post some photos of the propeller blades soon.
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Post by davidd on Jul 16, 2024 17:28:20 GMT 12
The attempt by RNZAF to "quieten down" the rasping of the Harvards propeller took place, I think, in the late 1950s/early 60s, but was not considered a success. However it was well covered at the time by the Christchurch newspapers, and also, I think, in the RNZAF News of the time.
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Post by Antonio on Jul 16, 2024 17:48:47 GMT 12
The attempt by RNZAF to "quieten down" the rasping of the Harvards propeller took place, I think, in the late 1950s/early 60s, but was not considered a success. However it was well covered at the time by the Christchurch newspapers, and also, I think, in the RNZAF News of the time. Was a three bladed prop ever considered? Like our old Warbird "Zero". |
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Post by baz62 on Jul 18, 2024 8:58:11 GMT 12
The attempt by RNZAF to "quieten down" the rasping of the Harvards propeller took place, I think, in the late 1950s/early 60s, but was not considered a success. However it was well covered at the time by the Christchurch newspapers, and also, I think, in the RNZAF News of the time. I seem to recall the T6G upgrade the US did involved square tip props blades. I wonder if the RNZAF got the same blades or modified existing blades(which reduced performance but would the T6G blades have been better?) |
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Post by davidd on Jul 18, 2024 11:35:18 GMT 12
Pretty certain that three-bladed props were NOT considered, that would have cost WAY too much money! Incidentally the RAAF (or more likely CAC) chose three-bladed props for their Wirraway version, but these were powered by the P&W R-1340 WITH A REDUCTION GEARBOX, which certainly "solved" the noise problem. The reduction gear front casing on this version of the Wasp was very different in appearance, being a much deeper casting to contain the gearing mechanism, and external radial-type "ribbing" to strengthen this component - I imagine the 3-bladed prop was a somewhat heavier item. From memory it had the counterweight prop (this was all pre the Hydromatic type of course).
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Post by planecrazy on Jul 31, 2024 15:44:47 GMT 12
Ticked off a bucket list item yesterday, an aerobatic flight in an ex RNZAF Harvard. Housed at the Precisiion Airmotive hangar under the care of Doug Hamilton and his team. The first aeroplane I ever sat in was a Harvard being towed across the apron at Wigram, a little bright eyed boy became hooked on aeroplanes that day. Some fifty years on still feel like that little boy sometimes, especially yesterday!    Thank you Doug and your team....... |
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Post by Antonio on Jul 31, 2024 16:34:24 GMT 12
That is such a fantastic scheme and from my boyhood - I love it!!!! Any of you S&S types able to send Doug the correct serial font?  |
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