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Post by shorty on Aug 5, 2008 9:50:42 GMT 12
The Comet was therefore probably here also for the Mangere show
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 5, 2008 14:16:26 GMT 12
Yes. It did a flypast. It probably also flew out many dignataries and entouage from the RAF, I guess.
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Post by tbf25o4 on Aug 5, 2008 15:38:25 GMT 12
Of interest the B170 has 41 Squadron fin markings and the paint finish puts the date prior to 1970 when the camouflage scheme was introduced.
The US Navy P3 may have been here on a RIMPAC exercise as part of the ANZUS series of exercises.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 5, 2008 16:30:02 GMT 12
Out of interest, did any Orions visit NZ when the RNZAF was considering replacing the Sunderland, as demonstrators? Did Lockheed of the US Navy send one out to show what it could do?
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Post by shorty on Aug 5, 2008 16:36:54 GMT 12
OK, lets go with some more visiting aircraft with some photos from Ohakea. Starting with a pair of TF 100s that were here for the RNZAF 21st show. Interestingly The Minister of Railways,Mr Moohan was taken for a supersonic ride in one (flown by Capt Jimmy Nichols from Bryan, Texas the other pilot was Lt Col Lee Grosshuesch)). A B 47 also came out, a WB-66 Destroyer and a KC 135 (63603) to tank up the F 100s, however I only newspaper photos of them  Document (72) by Neville Mines, on Flickr  Document (73) by Neville Mines, on Flickr Amongst the brass hats attending were ACM Sir Ralph Cochrane, Air Marshal the Earl of Bandon, C in C FEAF, Gen Curtiss Le May and Air Marshal A Scherger C in C RAAF |
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Post by shorty on Aug 5, 2008 17:17:34 GMT 12
I am a bit confused, the newspapers talk of the Super Sabres at the 21st but not the Vulcans, They do however mention the Valiant (flown by Trent) yet that is not a Valiant nose in the photos. Suely the TF 100s weren't here for the opening of Rongotai, F 101s were here for that but so were 4 Vulcans. Anyone have a definitive list of the participants in the 2 shows?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 5, 2008 17:56:59 GMT 12
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Post by shorty on Aug 5, 2008 18:25:31 GMT 12
No, mine are Auckland Papers, probably the Star
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Post by shorty on Aug 5, 2008 21:31:15 GMT 12
It appears that just one Vulcan came to the 21st but the reporter who wrote the article I has ignored it entirely. However the reports on the opening of Rongotai mention that 4 Vulcans came out for that (one of which had the mishap) Here are the other three.  Document (91) by Neville Mines, on Flickr  Document (95) by Neville Mines, on Flickr And a nice shot of one of the Voodoos for the same show  Document (64) by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 5, 2008 21:38:28 GMT 12
One of those Vulcans has a Wing Commander's pennant, but what's the marking on the closest one with two stars? Is that a rank pennant too?
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Post by Radialicious on Aug 5, 2008 23:02:14 GMT 12
Dave, the two stars were the accommodation rating for those who weren't the pilots...........
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Post by b10m on Aug 5, 2008 23:09:34 GMT 12
Someone mentioned looking at the background,
Note the Vulcan landing in the background of that middle shot of the Vulcan, could you describe the clouds in that shot as moody?.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 5, 2008 23:28:23 GMT 12
I'd describe the clouds in that shot 'as fine as you're likely to get at Ohakea'.
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Post by phil82 on Aug 6, 2008 16:17:46 GMT 12
The answer to "Did any USN Orions visit NZ?", yes.
I recall two at Ohakea on some visit, one with a COMPAC Admiral on board. His aircraft had an engine problem, so being an Admiral, he took the other one. The captain of the now three-engined bird waited for a while, not long, then did a three-engined take-off, all the way home on three!
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Post by phil82 on Aug 6, 2008 16:24:07 GMT 12
For the Mangere opening, a lot of aircraft were based at Ohakea. I went up to Mangere on a USAF KC135, and came back on a C97 Globemaster, the original one!
The Argus was, as I'm sure you all know, a close relative of the Bristol Brittania!
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Post by phil82 on Aug 6, 2008 16:29:00 GMT 12
That 'Three Fence Vampire". According to Ted Arundel, it was at the third fence before the pilot stated "at this point I lost control". Yeah, right.
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Post by phil82 on Aug 6, 2008 16:32:24 GMT 12
Some time ago, I can't find the reference now, but it might have been a question from Dave, someone asked who it was who had twice bailed out. The first was that air-to air of two Vampires at Ohakea, and the other from a Canberra [one of the leased ones I think], in Singapore, or rather Malaya. I'm fairly certain the man in question was Pete Bevan
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Post by sniff on Aug 6, 2008 18:40:56 GMT 12
That 'Three Fence Vampire". According to Ted Arundel, it was at the third fence before the pilot stated "at this point I lost control". Yeah, right. That being the case, wasn't the Vampire flown by Tom Enright? Or have I got the story wrong? |
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Post by shorty on Aug 6, 2008 19:36:32 GMT 12
While you fellows sort out the pilots I'll continue the four engine theme (I can't find my Valiant photos) but this time with prop powered visitors to air shows. Starting with the American way of doing it a C 124 Globemaster(the wings look too small for the fuselage) BTW The C97 was the Stratocruiser.  scan0074 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Now we have the Brit way of doing it, Quicker to do as you don't need to take it out of the warehouse, just stick some wings on the outside.  scan0075 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Moving on to Mangere opening we the Argosy from FEAF, In Singapore their crews used to tell us the Whistling wheelbarrow were wonderful, they could carry a tank 200 yds or a matchbox around the world!  scan0051 by Neville Mines, on Flickr And finally, also from the Mangere show, the Belfast.  scan0046 by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by phil82 on Aug 7, 2008 13:53:12 GMT 12
Tom Enright seems to be about right! I wasn't there then, but they were still talking about the point at which "I lost control" some years after!
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