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Post by shorty on Oct 26, 2008 12:40:27 GMT 12
Here are some shots taken of the FW-190 project that was under way at Wigram for a while. These first four shots were taken of the display area at Wanaka, displaying the bits they had done at that stage and the genuine tail assembly used as a pattern.[/IMG]  FW 190 tail assy by [url=https://  scan0110 by Neville Mines, on Flickr/photos/187797881@N02/]Neville Mines[/url], on Flickr scan0110 by Neville Mines[ scan0112 by Neville Mines, on Flickr/url], on Flickr  scan0113 by Neville Mines, on Flickr This next shot is of the wings that were loaned to them and was taken in their workshop in 4 hangar at Wigram. This last photo is much better! It is the front cockpit section displayed in the Deutsches Museum in Munich. Sorry about the flas  scan0116 by Neville Mines, on Flickrh flare but it is protected by a sheet of perspex to keep it secure.  scan0115 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Anyone know what happened to the con man running the 190 project? Did he end up in the slammer? A google search has been some help. I did find this though www.aviastar.org/air/usa/ahrens_ar-404.phpand he had a photo of this on his office wall. It may have been the twin engine one mentioned that he was working on with Tim's money. I'll post a photo of a relic of that shortly. Also found this bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/666/666.F2d.718.81-1185.htmland this www.fargoairport.com/1991%20Minutes.pdf (pages 2 to 5) where again he was trying to raise money in 1991 |
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Post by Martin Wienert on Oct 27, 2008 0:51:38 GMT 12
What's that Luftwaffe aeroplane? Is it a Boeing 707? Luftwaffe once operated 4 Boeing B707 - 307C. 10+01 was c/n 19997/747 Last flight of 10+01 was 16.01.1997. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 27, 2008 11:06:00 GMT 12
Thanks Martin.
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Post by shorty on Oct 27, 2008 12:03:43 GMT 12
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Post by baz62 on Oct 27, 2008 12:11:07 GMT 12
What was that project supposed to be Shorty? Looks like the nose from one type and the fuselage from another?? Actually on a second look it looks like the roof is missing from the fuselage??
Love the photos more more!!
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Post by shorty on Oct 28, 2008 19:08:59 GMT 12
As I understand it it was to be a twin engine high wing aircraft with a C-130 style beaver tail.
I believe orginally there was another fuselage section the same length as the one shown but I don't know what became of that.
The structure on the ground behind it in the second photo is the roof framework (unskinned) and there is also the rear fuselage sides which also are unskinned.. The whole nose section (and nose cone) are composite construction and the rest of the fuselage is normal stressed skin.
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Post by denysjones on Oct 29, 2008 20:24:33 GMT 12
If I'm not wrong Shorty that is the fuselage "thing" that Nigel Wilcox of the Aviators Gallery in Carlyle St had.
Nigel mounted it on a trailer with the intention of taking it to airshows etc as a mobile stall for selling his wares. Last time I saw it would be about 2years ago outside the apartment-office Nigel had transferred his home and business to but I've not seen neither it nor Nigel since then.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Oct 29, 2008 20:48:05 GMT 12
. . that is the fuselage "thing" that Nigel Wilcox of the Aviators Gallery in Carlyle St had. from Hudson NZ2084 |
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Post by shorty on Oct 29, 2008 21:04:06 GMT 12
The mobile shop project is still progressing albeit slowly, Nigel last called in to my place earlier this month. The photos were taken at my place (when I lived at Greta) and most of Nigels stuff (incl NZ 2084) was stored there. The trailer project has slowed down due to the cost involved in all of the certification required by land transport.
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Post by shorty on Oct 29, 2008 21:14:04 GMT 12
A few more miscellaneous photos. Starting with the lovely Electra sitting at Omaka.  scan0118 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Then we have bit of a contrast in cargo aircraft with the first KC-10 to visit NZ taxying past a venerable Freighter.  scan0057 by Neville Mines, on Flickr And to finish with two shots taken during Triad. Now theres a good project for someone, compile a list of all the exercises the RNZAF has taken part in. (both here and overseas!)  scan0160 by Neville Mines, on Flickr  scan0162 by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 29, 2008 21:42:29 GMT 12
That's a great couple of shots of the formation there Shorty.
I have thought about all the different exercises and compiling a list. i reckon we could start a thread here and list exercise names, dates, venues, purpose, types of aircraft involved, photos, etc. Then perhaps from that a database could be compiled.
Shorty do you have any photos of the Hudson NZ2084 from recently?
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Post by denysjones on Oct 30, 2008 18:40:13 GMT 12
Nope sorry Peter Nigel had the "thing" and the of the Hudson
The latter had been first cut so he had the W/O bay fwd and from the cockpit floor up if you follow me. It had then been transversely cut as well to enable it to be got up to the upstairs part of the Aviators Gallery. When I first saw the Hudson bit it was then "complete" back to the door area but again no floor left.
The other unit was supposedly the prototype of some commuter aircraft that Ahrens brought to NZ. The part of that that Nigel has/had is sufficiently small to go on a road legal trailer and light enough that he towed it behind a Suzuki Jimmy. At one stage I think it was camm'ed and another stage yellow and white.
Definitely two separate beasts. Ant Galbraith are you reading this as i think you'll know of it?
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Post by shorty on Oct 30, 2008 19:10:55 GMT 12
Suzuki Jimmy wasn't up to the task so it's place has been taken by a Range Rover.
I'll try and get some photos of the trailers current state next time I'm around at it's lair.
He is also still working on his Ag-Cat which is due to be moved from Waiau to Waikari.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 30, 2008 19:12:52 GMT 12
That Hudson fuselage was quite substantial back when I used to see it in the RNZAF Museum's workshop. It's a shame to hear it is cut up now.
I was told by one of the Museum's workshop corporals that it had been used in the 1980's kids' series The Sea Urchins in which it was sunk in some water, possibly sea water. Do you now about this Denys? I'd love to see the series again to confirm this. It was Rebecca Gibney's first ever TV appearance.
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Post by shorty on Oct 30, 2008 20:13:26 GMT 12
Have just been on the phone to Nigel Wilcox to get an update on the trailer project.
The roof is fitted and skinned, the tail portion likewise, It is virtually weatherproof now, just a couple of leaks to track down. Next is working towards the COF requirments and wiring up the 240 volt electrical system,.
It was moved to a larger workspace two weeks ago and the interior layout is being planned out. He is hoping to have it habitable by the end of the Christmas period.
Regarding the Hudson, this was placed into the upstairs floor of the Aviators Gallery building through a window opening as the building was being constructed and before the window was fitted.
When the building was sold it was not possible to remove it by a reversal of the procedure so I was asked to de-rivet it into sections that could be lowered down the stairwell. This entailed splitting it into about 5 sections, all acheived without cutting any metal parts. From there it was taken to my house at Greta and stored in one of my sheds until I sold the house.
When he got it from the Museum (in exchange for some graphic work done for them)there was no floor in it and it had the rear section of the fuselage had been removed. Also missing from it was the panel by the cockpit where all the data and serials were stencilled.
We were never able to find out who had removed that or when.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Oct 30, 2008 20:33:52 GMT 12
When I was passing through Chch around that time, I made a particular effort to track down 'The Aviators Gallery' just to see & photograph the Hudson. I was greatly annoyed to find the whole thing had shut down the previous month.
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Post by shorty on Oct 30, 2008 20:37:30 GMT 12
Peter, you should have told me!!
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Post by shorty on Oct 31, 2008 16:02:36 GMT 12
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Post by shorty on Nov 1, 2008 12:10:57 GMT 12
Some more Hind photos for you all. Starting with NZ 1502  NZ 1502 by Neville Mines, on Flickr and moving on to NZ 1504  NZ 1504 by Neville Mines, on Flickr These next two are RNZAF Museum photos, starting with NZ 1556 at Ohakea with 21 Squadron  NZ 1556 UY-B by Neville Mines, on Flickr and finishing with some 6 Squadron aircraft. XX-A is trainer NZ 1545 and XX-Y NZ 1544 is a bomber. The nose seen is the USMC SNB-2 liason aircraft based in NZ  NZ 1544 by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 3, 2008 9:01:44 GMT 12
I love Hawker Hinds. Thanks for those. Is that third fence shot photo showing a Hind with a dark fuselage and silver wings? It looks almost blue. How odd.
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