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Post by shorty on Jun 12, 2009 20:10:59 GMT 12
OK we'll now go through a sequence on NZ 1017 Fitted out as FAC aircraft with No.14 Squadron in 1965. Force landed after engine failure approximately 9 miles north of Taupo during FAC exercise 12 December 1972. Crew unhurt and aircraft retrieved to Ohakea by road 14 December. Stripped of all useable components and scrapped The engine failure was due to an incorrect fuel selection and the fuel cock being between the two tank selections. The crewman in the back was a armanent SNCO. Because of my experience in New Guines I was detailed to join the salvage party. We went by UH-1 to the crash site which was undulating farmland and we were able to put down alongside the wreck.  NZ 1017b by Neville Mines, on Flickr In this next shot you can see the rut formed by the engine (forward of the Stbd roundel)as the aircraft skidded over the ridge in the background before the lower cowl dug in and spun the aircraft 180 degrees  NZ 1017c by Neville Mines, on Flickr lots more to come! |
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Post by obiwan27 on Jun 12, 2009 20:14:40 GMT 12
Great stuff Shorty, the Huey has an interesting paint scheme, looks like it's before they painted ....was it a yellow band around the tail boom and the exterior of the engine compartment.....I need to check my own photo stash and see....
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Post by baz62 on Jun 12, 2009 20:20:39 GMT 12
Really fascinating photos Shorty, thanks for posting them!
Baz
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Post by alanw on Jun 12, 2009 21:45:15 GMT 12
Great stuff Shorty, the Huey has an interesting paint scheme, looks like it's before they painted ....was it a yellow band around the tail boom and the exterior of the engine compartment.....I need to check my own photo stash and see.... Here's a clearer photo (sorry it's photo of a photo, scanners broken) in the original US Army style Olive Drab they were delivered in.  My understanding though is that US Army UH-1's had the lower half of the main rotor blades painted black. I'm not sure if that was the case with the RNZAF UH-1's, any one? |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 12, 2009 21:54:18 GMT 12
Those downed Harvard shots are really interesting, and great quality. Great!
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Post by stu on Jun 12, 2009 22:21:24 GMT 12
This thread has ticked over to 50 pages!! Excellent work! And well worth every page - great stuff Shorty. |
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Post by shorty on Jun 12, 2009 22:24:58 GMT 12
Taken from the ridge we have the ohh-uhh squad starting the investigations while us black hand gang get to lounge around on the grass. The bald guy by the wingtip is W/O "Snow" Hall and he is talking to an Engineering Officer Dave somebody.  NZ 1017d by Neville Mines, on Flickr However we had to start work so in the next shot the rear fuselage/tail assembly has been removed/ Of all the aircraft types to dismantle and shift the Harvard would be the best, easily coming apart into manageable pieces.  NZ 1017e by Neville Mines, on Flickr The power plant has been disconnected and the centre fuslage frame freed from the wing centre section.  NZ 1017f by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by lumpy on Jun 12, 2009 22:35:51 GMT 12
Love the shots of the harvard taken to bits ! The pictures make it look like it was easy - without lifting equipment ( apart from the huey ) . Very impressive .
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 12, 2009 23:14:27 GMT 12
Does the Harvard fuselage front and back normally detach in the middle like that, ie for maintenance, or was this simply sawn in half? I've never seen a Harvard broken down like this before. Same goes for the other joints that have been severed too.
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Post by shorty on Jun 12, 2009 23:40:42 GMT 12
Next shot is me holding the strop up for the Huey to hook on (again they picked the shortest guy-must be something to do with being the most junior!)  NZ 1017i by Neville Mines, on Flickr This is such a long process loading photos into flickr that I'll leave the rest of this series until tomorrow. |
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Post by Bruce on Jun 12, 2009 23:43:52 GMT 12
Dave, the disconnect point is where the tubular forward fuse frame connects to the monocoque rear fuselage. once the fwd side panels are off its only a few bolts to take the back end off. A few more bolts gets the wing centre section off. Truely a modular aircraft! (and why bits got regularly swapped around!)
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Post by shorty on Jun 12, 2009 23:44:18 GMT 12
That is the normal joint Dave, the fuselage consists of the power plant, the cockpit area made of tubes and then the rear fuselage of wood (the early ones) or metal. This unbolts just where the cockpit side panels finish
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 12, 2009 23:47:11 GMT 12
Thanks
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Post by shorty on Jun 13, 2009 9:36:22 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 13, 2009 11:19:14 GMT 12
More great photos, thanks for these Shorty. Do you recall who the pilot was that made the crash landing?
The roundels are huge on that early Iroquois colour scheme, quite interesting to see.
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Post by baz62 on Jun 13, 2009 11:26:59 GMT 12
Looking at the photos with my engineering eye it looks like the fuse had a bit of a twist in relation with the centre section. Would have been a major one to fix. Ah well just trundle a spare Harvard back into service.
Baz
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Post by shorty on Jun 13, 2009 13:32:11 GMT 12
we'll have to get you a job as a consulting engineer Baz62. Continuing on a Harvad theme next up is NZ 1013 at Hobsonville in mid 67 with a Wasp in the background  NZ 1013 colour by Neville Mines, on Flickr Next is our old friend showing to good advantage it's "modified"rudder. Date of this photo is 1972  scan0012 by Neville Mines, on Flickr and the last of this set is the Wigram line.  scan0034 by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by shorty on Jun 13, 2009 14:13:28 GMT 12
Staying with Harvards we open with 2 shots from MOTAT showing their one as received and following it's first repaint. Also visible in the first shot is P 40 3009, the Vampire and the Gemini. The naval turret in the background of the second shot is from HMNZS Archilles. I used to live about 150 yards up the hill behind the group of shops visible. They were our local shops but have now been replaced by a gas station  scan0035 by [url=htt  scan0036 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Last shot in this series is NZ 1079 photographed at Harlingen, Texas in Oct 80.  NZ 1079 USA by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by Richard Wesley on Jun 13, 2009 19:00:24 GMT 12
Thanks Shorty. I always thought the photos I had seen of '53 at Motat were NZ1053 and had just been on loan or something before being restored to flying condition. Looking at your photos more closely I realise that NZ944 was INST153 and hence also painted '53 when it first arrived? I guess that also means NZ1053 was never at Motat although this was suggested in another post in this thread I think...?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 13, 2009 19:51:24 GMT 12
Nice to see these early photos of NZ944's preservation. I recall there was a question earlier about whether it was NZ1053. We now know for sure it wasn't. I hope you don't mind but I have tweaked the brightness and colours on this one to make it a little less blue and dark.  |
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