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Post by wingnut on Feb 7, 2013 23:06:20 GMT 12
Everbody (with one excep
.tion) will miss out. The receivers have control of the traceable income, and it is more than likely that the service providers will paid out on that basis. I am sure that the only people who will turn a dollar over this are the receivers.
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Post by sputnik767 on Feb 10, 2013 13:37:49 GMT 12
Not a good sign for the future of this show. www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10864433I am not going to speculate or comment other than I do find this sad to read hope that no one gets badly burned(financially). And yes I am one of those aucklanders that didn't go, the beach was far more inviting and I have been waiting for my son to be born so not given permission to attend.... |
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Post by phil82 on Feb 10, 2013 14:38:59 GMT 12
Mustang 51, Jimmy Page, JDK et al; I must say I am in total agreement with all your comment, especially the "I wouldn't cross the road to attend". Nor would I, in fact from the moment it was announced, in my case in the form of an advertising leaflet handed out at the Ardmore Mosquito launch, I dismissed it out of hand. That's not me being arrogant or dismissive, but I have attended A LOT, of air shows over the last 50 years or so, and can recognise broadly what will work and what what won't. I can guarantee there were many people of similar mind who looked at what was on offer, where it was being offered, and the price, and switched off immediately. What is it about "International Air Show at a club airfield" that simply doesn't gel?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 10, 2013 15:32:41 GMT 12
I think it is sad to see this airshow fail so badly. Many of the negative nay-sayers here who were very free in giving their opinions and dire predictions before the event are probably feeling rather smug right now. It's a real shame for those who will lose out financially.
The comments in that Herald article about the attendance being lacklustre due to the parking plan seems a bit strange, to say the least. That's one of the things people here have commended as being very good I thought. It's not the first airshow to use a park and ride system either, Tauranga City Airshow does that with no problems as far as I am aware. I think it's time they admitted that the line up they offered simply did not wow the general public enough to see them coming out in droves, and they picked a weekend when there was far too much else on around the provence.
I was otherwise engaged, as I am every Auckland Anniversary Weekend, at a music event I help organise here in Cambridge so there was no way I could go, even after being given free tickets. But honestly, unlike the general aviation fans out there who might have been into this kind of event, even if I could have gone there wasn't anything in the pre-publicity regarding their attractions that made me want to go, particularly as a paying punter. The park and ride bus would be the least consideration in the event of whether on not I'd attend to be honest.
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Post by sputnik767 on Feb 10, 2013 16:03:58 GMT 12
I agree with you dave, I liked the park and ride idea, my biggest frustration from all of the shows I have been to is that everybody else decides to go home the same time as me and there is only one exit gate. I didn't realise I was so popular  Except for the baby being due the line up just didn't grab me, I am very much a fan of vintage aircraft. But it is amazing what comes from an idea. If my memory serves me correctly, didn't the wanaka show start as a fly in??(happy to be wrong over that one) |
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Post by afbrat on Feb 10, 2013 18:29:26 GMT 12
Haven't quite got the hang of quoting from the message but Slackie wrote on the 1st of Feb that "it was time Kiwis realised that we don't need the warbirds for a successful airshow". We are all kiwi's here and generally proud of our military history and by and large that's what most of the people want to see, at least the ones I have spoken to and I have been going to airshows for over 40 years. I am sorry to read that the business has gone broke as I had hoped for bigger and better but one thing I know, if you want them to come then give them what they want. The mossie show is a case in point. All the things that went wrong or were not done well and everyone loved it. Enuf from me.
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Feb 10, 2013 18:43:28 GMT 12
Most airshow regulars want to see warbirds, I think. For the non-regular general public the prospect of the jetman and air race and so forth might well appeal, but it needs to be priced realistically, which this wasn't - I know a lot of other big international airshows are significantly more expensive than this one was, but they also usually have about ten times as much content, if not more.
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Post by scrooge on Feb 10, 2013 20:01:30 GMT 12
It was half a show, at full price. It needed the traditional stuff to draw in an aviation aware crowd who could then be 'sold' the new format.
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Post by flyinkiwi on Feb 11, 2013 9:33:05 GMT 12
It was half a show, at full price. It needed the traditional stuff to draw in an aviation aware crowd who could then be 'sold' the new format. I think this sums it up nicely. I wonder why they insisted on doing it over 3 days, I think a full days schedule would have worked better. |
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Post by mumbles on Feb 11, 2013 10:15:42 GMT 12
I think it is sad to see this airshow fail so badly. Many of the negative nay-sayers here who were very free in giving their opinions and dire predictions before the event are probably feeling rather smug right now. It's a real shame for those who will lose out financially. Agreed, it is a shame when people invest time, money and goodwill (and to be honest, albeit in hindsight, I'm guessing a few of those investors did so with reservations), and then lose out. I missed the pre event commentary, but while wishing it well, I am also disappointed but not unsurprised at what transpired. The concept was certainly interesting, and has potential, but I thought it over hyped for what it was; I can't help but think something went awry with the marketing, since there seem to be a very big disconnect between expectation and reality as regards numbers attending, or even the size of the market. I also received a flyer at the Mosquito show, tuned into Campbell Live for the big announcement, only for my first thoughts to be "that's it?". When you're planning an aviation event, but not really attracting a core sector of the relevant audience, something isn't right. Like others, once the line up was confirmed I had little interest in attending given the travel involved (if I were resident in Auckland I might have gone, but the price would definitely have been off putting). It's a pity, this could have been a really cool alternative event to grow and develop through repeat stagings. |
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Post by scrooge on Feb 12, 2013 8:48:34 GMT 12
Having Campbell Live do a feature AFTER the show showed a certain 'disconnect'. Should have been on the Friday after a practice or as a special during or after the news on Saturday.
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Post by wingnut on Feb 16, 2013 18:25:13 GMT 12
From the North Shore Aero Club website.This is how it was perceived from the host's spokesperson:
"The New Zealand International Air Show at the North Shore Aero Club was a moment in history for the club, with two aviation world firsts achieved and putting the club on National Television over a period of three days, culminating with a 30 minute show at peak viewing time. The atmosphere was something special on Monday night after the show finished, with the show pilots, staff and club members watching the show on TV in the uptairs lounge, all having a beer together - just magic."
This is a huge win for the club on our 50th anniversary and is a testament to our welcoming, friendly and open-minded approach to great ideas which promote all forms of aviation at North Shore."
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