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Post by flyjoe180 on Feb 10, 2013 21:17:57 GMT 12
Be wary of Humbrol 28 if you intend to ever try it, it is slightly beige in colour. Any progress pictures?
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Post by strikemaster on Feb 10, 2013 21:39:24 GMT 12
I gave up on Humbrol years ago, found Mr Hobby a lot easier to work with. The Humbrol flat colours never seemed flat to me. Apparently Mr Hobby paints are low production and every store I went to in Melbourne was out of stock of the colours I needed. I think I'll drop some white into the grey, and grey into the NATO. That should do the trick.
This wasn't supposed to be a serious kit (my skills aren't that great) but I have already reshaped the fuselage and tail and added the correct aerial. I will do a bigger scale post 90's A4K at some point I think.
Thanks Phil, I've jotted down the MR Hobby numbers for the later kit.
As an aside, where the blunty's the same colour scheme back then?
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Post by mumbles on Feb 10, 2013 22:47:18 GMT 12
As an aside, where the blunty's the same colour scheme back then? The greens might be the same, but the brown was more "Dark Earth" than tan to my eye. Originally at least they were painted in British/RAF common colours rather than the USAF ones the A-4's were painted in. I don't know if the different colours were maintained once in service. Logistically speaking it would make sense for the same paints to be used across both fleets. Incidentally (and slightly perversely) Tamiya does produce the correct colours for the SEA scheme, but in spray/rattle cans only, aimed at one of their big 1/32 Phantom kits. Apart from that, Tamiya's selection in their acrylic and enamel range has always seemed a little eccentric to me. |
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Post by strikemaster on Feb 10, 2013 23:06:38 GMT 12
Oh, righto. Is it the same colours as the Vietnam era F-4's? Aha, I see.  That underside looks near white too. So they were modelled on the US scheme while the Strikemaster's pre-dated them so, of course, stuck to the Pommy way of doing things. I went to check out Don's book. All sold out, damn it. I'll be needing that at some point. Would have saved a lot of questions. ;D |
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Post by phil on Feb 11, 2013 19:36:54 GMT 12
The Strikemaster were delivered in BS equivalent, but were repainted in FS colours during their career. This can be differentiated by looking at the demarcation between the Light grey underside and the top surface colours. Early pattern had a wavy demarcation (really wavy, like a sine curve) while the repainted aircraft had a much straighter demarcation.
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Post by phil on Feb 11, 2013 19:39:02 GMT 12
I'd add XF4 yellow green to Nato green to lighten it, not grey. If you add grey you'll end up with a sage green or Field grey colour. To lighten Nato green to approximate the light green in a SEA scheme a yellow is the way to go.
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Post by strikemaster on Feb 11, 2013 22:20:14 GMT 12
Will do, cheers.
I remember the early blunty scheme, well, pictures at least. I thought it looked quite nice.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 11, 2013 22:33:27 GMT 12
Can someone who is knowledgable on Skyhawk schemes for models please compile all the different paint colour FS numbers and model paint equivalents and decal details and all that stuff which gets asked about every few months here repeatedly, into one new thread in the Tips and Tutorials section so I can Sticky it and people don't have to ask this about Skyhawk schemes over and over ad nauseum, please? It would be handy for a one-stop thread with all the info already there, including all three camo schemes and the gold scheme. Thanks.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Feb 12, 2013 8:14:08 GMT 12
The schemes are described in various places in this forum and on other sites, one just has to make an effort and search. There are also plenty of paint conversion charts available, take your pick. But a place to pool paint schemes, ideas and documents for various aircraft might be a good idea Dave. For example another question that crops up every few months is regarding the various greys used on the modern RNZAF fleet.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 12, 2013 8:23:59 GMT 12
Exactly Joe. People don't seem to search and ask the same questions over and over. It's of little interest to me as I'm not a modeller, but I'd appreciate it if one of our modellers who knows all this stuff could please compile all these FAQ's into one place for future reference.
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Post by mumbles on Feb 12, 2013 8:31:43 GMT 12
Exactly Joe. People don't seem to search and ask the same questions over and over. It's of little interest to me as I'm not a modeller, but I'd appreciate it if one of our modellers who knows all this stuff could please compile all these FAQ's into one place for future reference. The forum search engine being somewhat useless (in my experience anyway) doesn't help in this regard. Happy to contribute to a sticky though. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 12, 2013 9:56:22 GMT 12
Go for it Sam.
The forum search engine is ok if you have some idea of when the thread was that you're looking for but it can be tricky. The best way to search the forum is go to Google and type rnzaf.proboards and then your keywords and it will find everything you want.
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Post by strikemaster on Feb 12, 2013 10:30:18 GMT 12
The forum search is pretty average. I got a fair bit of info just googling large scale images of A4K's. I'm not a noob and I did look first, but the results were a mess. Hence my questions.
What would be real useful is maybe colour guides for all the commonly modelled RNZAF and commercial aircraft as well as weapon loadouts. A sticky for each would be superb.
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Post by baronbeeza on Feb 12, 2013 10:30:59 GMT 12
The best way to search the forum is go to Google and type rnzaf.proboards and then your keywords and it will find everything you want. The best only way to search the forum is go to Google and type rnzaf.proboards and then your keywords and it will find everything you want. Yep, Google will do and although the other methods may eventually work for you it is really not worth the effort. Google will get you there within milliseconds. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 12, 2013 10:32:49 GMT 12
That is the reason I have sugested this Mark, we need one-stop threads with all the info as many people like you in the past have found the same and then asked over again. I agree some colour guides would be good. I would even consider a new sub-board just for RNZAF colour guides if modellers are keen to contribute to them.
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Post by paulashman on Feb 12, 2013 19:02:14 GMT 12
As a noob (!), I love the idea! Took me ages to get the right colors for a venom I did!
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Post by strikemaster on Feb 12, 2013 22:07:53 GMT 12
I agree, great idea Dave. It'll be the RNZAF modelling mecca.
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