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Post by baronbeeza on Mar 4, 2013 20:25:05 GMT 12
Thanks Peter, that was most interesting.
The Rallye is one of those types a LAME may not be entirely happy working on. It probably has many little idiosyncracies that an IA, especially, may stumble over.
To be honest I would not know where to start trying to do an Annual Review on one so that is never going to happen. The publications, bulletins and even the Type Certificate would have to be researched and that would take a newbie an fair amount of time. I am sure some of the established hangars have been involved with some of those examples for many years and would know their way around them
Was the paddock performance that much better than a comparable Piper ?
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Mar 4, 2013 20:51:16 GMT 12
Yes, very good STOL performance
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Post by thomarse on Mar 4, 2013 21:15:24 GMT 12
I saw a PZL Koliber ZK RTB parked at Waipukurau a couple of months ago with a cover over it.
Yes, the Rallye was/is an incredible STOL ship, even with only 100 hp. I remember the procedure for opening the slats downwind - reduce power to 1500rpm, let the speed wash off a bit, then give the stick a good hard jerk backwards and they shot open with quite a loud bang. The trick was then to keep the airspeed down so they didn't close again.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Mar 5, 2013 17:14:25 GMT 12
I saw a PZL Koliber ZK RTB parked at Waipukurau a couple of months ago with a cover over it. Ah yes, missed out that one. I have never caught up with ZK-RTB myself. |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Mar 5, 2013 17:22:53 GMT 12
The second new Koliber imported by Dougal, c/n 03930056, was intended to become ZK-PZB. However, before this happened it was sold to R T Blackmore of Rotorua and adopted the personalised registration ZK-RTB as from 12May1997. Assembled at Rotorua, it carried out its first NZ flight there on 26Apr1997. Ownership passed to P G McKellow, North Canterbury on 30Jul2003, and it is still current with him. ZK-RTB photo'd by Dave Paull at Ashburton in February 2013 Captured at Waipukerau by Sir Minty 19Feb2016 Thus ends the not entirely happy history of the Rallye in New Zealand. Thanks to Allan and Keith for your assistance. |
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Post by agile on Mar 8, 2013 20:15:59 GMT 12
The first MS885 Super Rallye to be imported was c/n 5248 which became ZK-CDF with Seabrook Fowlds in February 1963.... Ownership passed to A A Innes, Black Forrest Station, August 1972, to D R Davison, Culverden, March 1978 and finally to Lowry Peaks Trust, Culverden in June 1992. It is still current, but I have not seen it at a civilized airfield for many, many years. CDF was still at Lowry Peaks when we were tenants there in the late '90s. David Davison took us for a flight once - take off down hill, land up hill (resounding 'clonk' as the slats deployed) , and he had the carcases of two other Rallye in the 'hangar' - he used to tell passengers that he thought he had got the hang of it now. ISTR one of the other airframes had suffered a wirestrike at Glenhope station (CCS?), and that one or other had been owned by G. Bristed, which might narrow down its ID. Sadly David has since passed away, so I wonder what has become of CDF..... |
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Post by agile on Mar 8, 2013 20:33:39 GMT 12
Reading through this thread is like a who's who of North Canterbury farmers - it was obviously a popular machine down our way. Thanks for another interesting thread Peter.
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Post by bobgod on Mar 9, 2013 12:33:48 GMT 12
Doesnt this look good?--It's a Koliber apparently modified in Switzerland {although the factory did a few for towing and ag.work.  |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Mar 9, 2013 14:27:33 GMT 12
I was just about to ask: Were there any taildragger variants? Would make a good bush plane I'd imagine
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Post by chinapilot on Mar 9, 2013 15:28:47 GMT 12
Yes - I've seen one in France.
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Post by bobgod on Mar 9, 2013 15:38:25 GMT 12
Here's the factory built sprayer.  |
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Mar 9, 2013 19:37:38 GMT 12
The tailwheel version reminds me of an Orlikan Meta-Sokol with a more conventional gear arrangement.
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Post by thomarse on Mar 11, 2013 12:33:09 GMT 12
Okay, so is the mission to track down CDF?
Shouldn't be too hard.
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Post by dakman on Mar 11, 2013 13:08:43 GMT 12
Hi Thomarse I see CDF still registered to Lowry Peaks Trust Culverden .
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Apr 16, 2013 19:42:37 GMT 12
I went to pull the Slingsby out of its hangar a couple of days ago and discovered that ZK-BZZ now seems to be a resident inside. Excuse the poor quality cellphone camera photo but since there doesn't seem to be a recent photo of it in this thread I thought this may be of interest. This hangar is a bit of a treasure trove, containing among other things a Stearman (not sure of rego), the pressurised C-337 Skymaster ZK-FZA (looking very sorry for itself) and what's left of the crashed Ardmore Flying School C-172R ZK-EAT.  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 16, 2013 19:57:54 GMT 12
. . and an Auster, it would seem.
Thanks Leo, I must check that out next time I call at Ardmore.
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Apr 17, 2013 19:40:55 GMT 12
It's normally locked up but feel free to call into the aero club and if I'm around I'd be happy to let you in! I thought that Auster was a hangar queen but I have actually seen it flying recently so it is airworthy.
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Post by The Red Baron on Apr 20, 2015 13:29:55 GMT 12
Found some slides of ZK-CBX in 1961.Was south of Putaruru at a topdressing strip where they used to give flying lessons.Jack Bindon was instructing,I'm not sure if was pre Waikato Flying School days or not.Dad and my Aunty were learning to fly.  driving department...  and little ole me al those years ago about to take her up for a spin....  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 20, 2015 23:28:11 GMT 12
Love the comprehensive avionics fit. Throttle back to idle . . open the canopy . . . yell to the guys on the ground. |
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Post by The Red Baron on Apr 21, 2015 19:55:31 GMT 12
I can remember going night flying off that strip in the Rallye,can only imagine they parked cars with the lights on down the side of the strip for runway lighting.I can remember flying over Putaruru marvelling at the lights.We must have made it back to the strip OK as I'm still here.
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