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Post by ErrolC on Apr 4, 2013 17:15:37 GMT 12
I don't know if anyone noticed, but during the Sunday Great War programme one of the tripes suffered a deadstick...I noticed it thru the viewfinder as it was approaching down the secondary runway towards the main runway..I yelled DEADSTICK..it came in with the glide angle of a brick, cross wind executed a sharp turn at low level onto the main....my heart was in my mouth...huge element of luck that he was not in a worse inital position and skill in bringing it in..did anyone else notice ?...here are some shots taken from a longer sequence to give you a sense of it....mere seconds later the Pup landed off runway ..also with some engine issues, but it did not seem as dramatic as this.. Yep, put a photo on Flickr on the lunchtime :-) Hmm, somewhere in the (short) editing stream the EXIF on it has been stripped. Certainly gave me a start, the wind from the rear left quarter on touchdown caused the left wheel to lift off the ground after the bounce. I've got a similar sequence. |
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Post by Andy Wright on Apr 4, 2013 17:17:51 GMT 12
Great sequence (and great pics in general), dinor, of some fine flying.
I realise everyone trains for a deadstick landing but, in those circumstances (hell, in any circumstance!), well done indeed.
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Post by martytheduck on Apr 4, 2013 18:05:59 GMT 12
wouldn't have happened if the oil had been turned on
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 4, 2013 18:13:13 GMT 12
The way I look at it is every thing on that scheme is as she was when she was retired except the font. And although you might say she wasn't retired she was actually not flown until late 1980/81 if I recall correctly so she was retired from operational duties I suppose you'd say in 1977.
Baz, if you look at the history of practically all the RNZAF Harvards they all endured periods where they were removed from service for storage and/or rebuild that incorporated new mods, etc.
The way I understand it, NZ1050 did not retire, it was always going to be retained in service with the Central Flying School, and it was grounded while a thorough rebuild was carried out that saw most of the lifed parts replaced from the many spares that were now otherwise useless as the rest of the fleet had retired. The team at Woodbourne's No. 1 Repair Depot overhaulled it in order to place it back into service with the best possible hope of having a long flying life.
The reasons it was retained in service were not just because it was historic and nostalgic, but also because it was to provide instructors with an aircraft that allowed training in taildraggers. The CT/4B and T.6 could not provide that vital training. This was part of the RNZAF flying training requirement, it was not just for rolling out at airshows as an afterthought to retirement.
As it was an oddbod aircraft with its own spares and two atttition airframes they formed a new unit within CFS, called The Historic Flight of the Central Flying School. It was not on the invetory books of the RNZAF Musuem - hence the reason it went to Ohakea when CFS moved there. It was part of that operational unit, and remains so now. This is how it has been explained to me.
"As I say it doesn't really matter "
It does mater if it means the correct information and not duff info is written and repeated here. If I am wrong hre I hope someone from the RNZAF Central Flying School's Historic Flight will correct me.
But as I see it, it's an aircraft asset that is part of an operational unit based at Ohakea that is involved in training as well as providing a great public relations tool (just like the CFS's Airtrainers and pilots do).
As with any aircraft that is in service for a long period the paint scheme has been adapted to meet service needs, the font that used to be on it may well have been disused by the RNZAF and their painting sub-contractors.
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Post by Gavin Conroy on Apr 4, 2013 19:33:48 GMT 12
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Apr 4, 2013 19:52:00 GMT 12
WOW! Sharp shooting cowboy!!
Can't keep away can you Mr Conroy? Aren't you supposed to be recuperating? Not that I'm complaining...
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Post by suthg on Apr 4, 2013 20:09:02 GMT 12
Gavin - brilliant panning skills at a low camera speed - a fantastic shot, so clear!!
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Post by Gavin Conroy on Apr 4, 2013 20:20:08 GMT 12
Got as much of a break as I am gonna get I think as now magazine deadlines are looming so straight into that work now.  |
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Post by mumbles on Apr 4, 2013 20:22:38 GMT 12
Jealous as ever especially after missing my second CF in a row. Thanks for the photos all, roll on 2015  . |
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Post by dinor on Apr 4, 2013 20:34:34 GMT 12
Re the sequence with the Triplane and the deadstick...!..an interesting stat I just noticed..the sequence has 15 shots..time from the first shot to the last was nearly exactly 10 seconds, the first shot is the first of the sequence posted and the last is the last of the sequence posted.....my point is it shows you how little time the pilots have when things go wrong.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 4, 2013 20:36:32 GMT 12
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Post by dinor on Apr 4, 2013 20:39:13 GMT 12
Dont' knock it Dave, try as I might I could never get the full sunburst in ..over the whole weekend..but you did it !!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 4, 2013 20:50:45 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 4, 2013 20:56:26 GMT 12
The WWI vehicles and guns are really interesting to see. I am intrigued that the German artillery has red camouflage, seems a bit bright.    Now you see him...  And then Al disappears in a puff of smoke... magic!  It is amazing the huge crowd Al drew during the Saturday lunchtime Hercules run. Well done Al  |
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Post by martytheduck on Apr 4, 2013 21:17:52 GMT 12
We had a bit of a tweak and a few runs Wednesday, and the Herc is running sweeter now, really pleased with the result, Good job Mr Al
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Post by No longer identifiable on Apr 4, 2013 21:28:39 GMT 12
Skysurfer, I thought your first shot of the glider climbing into a loop was stunning. What a beautiful, elegant aircraft caught in an unusual position. And thanks to all the photographers for all the other photos - we are really spoiled here on this forum, and for those of us who did not attend it is the next best thing.
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Post by Geoff Soper on Apr 4, 2013 22:56:55 GMT 12
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Post by Geoff Soper on Apr 4, 2013 23:38:58 GMT 12
some more from Classic Fighters 2013   silhoutted    Frank Parker makes the FW190 sing  Al Marshall shakes the ground and wakes up Blenheim on a late night sortie   Al jus' loves to please the evening MAC guests!  ...and in day mode and new overalls RNZAF 757  RNZAF 757 - awesome high speed pass!   slow dirty pass dangling the Dunlops and flaps down |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 5, 2013 0:22:29 GMT 12
Bloody brilliant photos Geoff! The moody shots of the Fw190, and the one with that amazing prop arc are stunning. And it's wonderful to see a photo of the Freighter taken when Al and I did the engine run!
Al told me tonight he's already listened to the WONZ Show episode with that engine run twice! When I listened to the recording I was quite amazed how good it came out, considering the noise factor, it's as good as being in the cockpit almost. And the fact that I was absolutely shit-scared nervous comes across completely, haha
Love the Boeing 757 shots too.
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Post by baz62 on Apr 5, 2013 10:13:32 GMT 12
Yes great photos, love the one of Al disappearing in smoke! That full prop arc of the FW190 is the business too!  Nice shot also Dave of the Yak team finale! |
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