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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 19:57:43 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 9, 2013 21:34:56 GMT 12
That will be a great kit!
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Post by dewobz on Apr 10, 2013 10:48:47 GMT 12
Yes sir eeee! And let's hope it is followed soon by F4U-1A & D versions for us RNZAF nuts.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 10, 2013 11:45:21 GMT 12
The Birdcage version can be made as a Fleet Air Arm version as flown by kiwis of course too.
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Post by baz62 on Apr 10, 2013 12:38:02 GMT 12
The Birdcage version can be made as a Fleet Air Arm version as flown by kiwis of course too. Weere they used operationally Dave or training units in the US? Seem to recall they had located the intact wreck of a FAA Corsair in a US lake?
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Post by Andy Wright on Apr 10, 2013 16:03:02 GMT 12
I think you're right, Baz, as I don't recall Corsair Is being used for combat ops in the FAA. There was an article written by Andy Saunders in the Dec 2009 Britain At War magazine about the Corsairs. My copy is at home somewhere. www.britainatwar.com/view_issue.asp?ID=3055CORSAIRS IN THE LAKE Andy Saunders tells the story behind the discovery of a pair of Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm Vought Corsair fighters discovered in Lake Sebago, Maine, USA. The aircraft are on the bottom of the lake at a depth of 325 feet. The pair of fighters had collided during a May 1944 training flight, killing 19-year-old pilots Raymond Knott and Reginald Gill. Edit - I've got a Tamiya F4U-1 in 1/48 that I bought for the express purpose of building as an RNZAF example one of these decades.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 10, 2013 16:14:24 GMT 12
Yeah I think they were only flown in the USA in training units by the Fleet Air Arm, but of course there's also the very early example that kiwi pilot Don Nairn test flew and evaluated, and then contributed to the redesign that emerged as a top fighter.
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Post by baz62 on Apr 10, 2013 16:55:09 GMT 12
Oh yeah I forgot about Don Nairn, I read his book a few years ago and really enjoyed it.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 11, 2013 18:54:51 GMT 12
He wasa great chap. I stayed with him and his wife in 2009. What an amazing history he had. His book is a must read.
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Post by Mustang51 on Apr 12, 2013 9:37:27 GMT 12
Dave, Where can I obtain a copy of Don's book?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 12, 2013 20:25:44 GMT 12
It comes up on Trademe sometimes. Not easy to find though. It's called Gold Wings and Webbed Feet.
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Post by baz62 on Apr 13, 2013 11:27:19 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 13, 2013 12:03:18 GMT 12
I got my copy a lot cheaper than that from Trademe. I think around $30.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 17:34:30 GMT 12
You could always build it as ZK-FUI! Actually, I wonder if anyone will? After all you can get decent late Merlin Spits, Mustangs and P-40s so why not a 1/32 AFC?
I'm not into 1/32 yet - have had the Pacific Coast models well underway as PV270 for about four years now - but it's great to see Tamiya's kits with such detail.
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Post by paulashman on May 4, 2013 12:09:50 GMT 12
Not being a spray can modeller methinks these 1/32 are out of my brush's league!
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Post by alanw on May 19, 2013 20:41:17 GMT 12
Hi All My first post on the new look forum. Was looking at the new Tamiya F4U-1 and suddeny had a thought about a photo I had seen on WIX, of a wrecked RNZAF Corsair. www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=131592#131592Looking closer at the photos (especially 3rd one down) it appears to be an early F4U-1 often referred to as a "Birdcage" Corsair. If you look at this photo you can see it has the "Birdcage" type canopy. img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/fugari/NZF4UaftercrashonMundaJan44-2.jpgI'm thinking that this birdcage may well be a Second hand F4U, if you look at the 2nd photo in above link, the wheel wells are all white (interior/doors and oleos) which may be due to a major overhaul, and the aircraft was re-sprayed in the USN 4 tone scheme. One may surmise that the 4 tone scheme was on most early RNZAF F4U-1's, but the wheel wells were only sprayed white after a major overhaul or change of color (ie from Bluegray/light grey). Early RNZAF F4U-1's would have most likely Zinc Chromate wheel wells and the oleos a gray or silver colour. So if you want to buy a Tamiya Corsair here's your reason to I may just have to save and buy one (I still have two Revell ones to build yet though ) Regards Alan
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 20, 2013 10:34:20 GMT 12
How do you mean it has a Birdcage type canopy? The canopy is missing. I'm confused.
Do you mean the windscreen?
The RNZAF never operated Birdcage aircraft and all their Corsairs were new when acquired, as far as I am aware.
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Post by davidd on May 20, 2013 13:08:03 GMT 12
I agree with Dave H that this a "perfectly normal" RNZAF F4U-1 with the later type canopy (not "birdcage", nor "bubble-top"), and it looks as though it is on Kukum Strip (Fighter 2) at Guadalcacal rather than at Munda (New Georgia). However it does appear that the canopy has been somewhat crushed at the rear in the overturn. The RNZAF did receive a few slightly second-hand Corsairs through unusual circumstances (the Americans "converted" a few of ours at Espiritu Santo immediately on arrival by ship, but when the mistake was realized they issued us an equal number of replacements from the local aircraft pool, and nothing more was said.) David D
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Post by alanw on May 20, 2013 21:10:40 GMT 12
I have "borrowed" these photos and use under "fair use" for illustration only. To me in my opinion, the following things denote an early F4U-1 (as opposed to the oft used suffix 1a) In this 1st photo the canopy does not appear (in my opinion) to be the later "Blown" type as found on many many RNZAF Corsairs (F4U-1(a)) The framing matches the "Birdcage" type, especially the rear section which has a "flared" look, if it was a "Blown hood" I would have expected the canopy to be more cracked/smashed. If you look at this early F4U-1 (yeah I know in RNZAF markings..... ) sliding portion of the canopy framing with the flared rear frame is quite similar to the above wrecked Corsair. Though this Corsair does not have the rear 1/4er panels. What makes me think that this is a Birdcage is the lower "observation Window" as in this photo, to my knowledge only found on the early F4U-1 (Birdcage) Corsairs, and either painted over or deleted in the F4U-1(a) production. Further if the RNZAF F4U in question was a brand new aircraft, I would expect the wheel wells/doors to be a darker colour (suggesting Zinc Chromate Green) not white along with the undercart oloeos, which if factory fresh would be grey/silver not white. The USN only painted those areas white after a major overhaul with a repaint. Regards Alan
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 8:33:55 GMT 12
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