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Post by planecrazy on Jul 22, 2013 21:16:28 GMT 12
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Post by suthg on Jul 23, 2013 8:02:40 GMT 12
Thanks - strange way to show off an F86 Sabre fuse only, boxed in beneath the P51 Mustang... you can hardly even get close to it. The whole building seems to have poor lighting too.
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Post by Andy Wright on Jul 23, 2013 9:56:19 GMT 12
It's a MiG-15 fuselage and, the first time I visited, I was surprised to see it there. However, as it was the major antagonist for RAAF Meteors during the Korean War, it makes sense and complements the Zero and Oscar.
Not sure why it's displayed that way. Same with the Wirrabanger but the building itself is not unlimited for space so I imagine they have to get a bit creative with the way things are displayed. The Sea Fury has got it sorted - folding wings! LOL. That said, the Aircraft Hall does not feel like everything is crammed in or cluttered. It is very, very well done but, to my knowledge, no other display has exhibits that are so obviously "not all there" (by choice as opposed to damage!). Absolutely wonderful being in the presence of something like a Milne Bay veteran Kittyhawk.
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Post by planecrazy on Jul 23, 2013 9:56:20 GMT 12
Thanks - strange way to show off an F86 Sabre fuse only, boxed in beneath the P51 Mustang... you can hardly even get close to it. The whole building seems to have poor lighting too. No fault of your spotting, as there is not much to spot but that is the forward section of a Mig 15.  And yes you are correct on all counts, it is very hard to get close to a lot of the machines, also very poor lighting. Maybe this is to keep people away from the displays and weak lighting to stop paint fading perhaps. The displays are a bit strange, take the Mosi almost squeezed into the roof and very had to actually see. The two Messerschmit jets (In another post) a couple of very famous aeroplanes and you can't really see them! Lighting is poor but perhaps this is to stop paint fading, you can use flash with no restrictions which is good. In saying all that there is heaps of space and some great stuff to look at! |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 23, 2013 11:20:22 GMT 12
If you can use flash photography then their policy is obviously not based around reducing UV light, more like reducing electricity costs and highlighting the exhibits.
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Post by Ykato on Jul 23, 2013 15:40:11 GMT 12
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Post by suthg on Jul 23, 2013 15:49:28 GMT 12
Andy Wright and Planecrazy - thanks for the correction!! Yes there is a difference there between the two I see now, but it is hidden away somewhat...
Thanks for sharing the photos.
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Post by Andy Wright on Jul 23, 2013 17:05:35 GMT 12
One of the galleries I still haven't made it to. |
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Post by Gavin Conroy on Jul 25, 2013 19:20:57 GMT 12
Very nice photos in your threads, some very nice original aircraft there.
Must get over for a look some time.
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Post by planecrazy on Jul 26, 2013 10:24:47 GMT 12
Very nice photos in your threads, some very nice original aircraft there. Must get over for a look some time. Thanks Gavin I am honored to have you compliment my photos, I hope you don't mind me asking a photography question? I have posted a number of shots from my recent visit to the the Australian War memorial, the building is very dark and therefore flash photography is the only way to go. I have seen people stick small pieces of white card on the top of their cameras flash which obviously deflects the flash on to the subject and therefore creates more light, is thi the case and would it be a good idea in such low light situations? Thank you. |
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Post by Gavin Conroy on Sept 4, 2013 19:08:03 GMT 12
Have never used that white card idea but no reason why it wouldn't work so might practice that idea sometime.
Must visit that museum some time as some nice aircraft there and you have photographed them very well.
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Post by glenn on Sept 6, 2013 22:48:07 GMT 12
The white card will be good at spreading diffusing the light and removing any hot spots. I don't think I would use it in such a large dark area though. All it will do is minimise the flash output over the target area. Great for if you're doing a closed in area such as a cockpit with reflecty instrument panels. It is possible to get good shots if you can find a steady platform ;-) A couple of images taken at the war memorial without flash   |
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Post by ngatimozart on Sept 7, 2013 17:27:44 GMT 12
Nice shots. I like the Me 262.
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Post by Richard Wesley on Oct 1, 2013 20:41:25 GMT 12
Wonderful photos of the 262. Just love that untouched, unrestored, very raw real look and feel. I think more aircraft need to be preserved like this and not restored to within an inch of their life. This is particularly only possible for aircraft on static display like this.
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Post by nuuumannn on Oct 2, 2013 12:48:02 GMT 12
The '262 and the AWM's Bf 109 are real time capsules and are therefore very valuable. On the fuselage is evidence of the markings the aircraft wore once it arrived in Britain; there are traces of a roundel and the Air Min number that was assigned to the aircraft; AM81. Note the unpainted area under the nose next to the ammo chutes; that was where a pylon for carrying bombs was located. This aircraft formerly served with KG51, the ground attack squadron (Jagdbombergeschwader).
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Post by ErrolC on Oct 2, 2013 13:48:38 GMT 12
I'm looking forward to seeing these in a few weeks!
I do have a translucent piece of plastic, with arms that fit it in front of the on-camera flash (base slots into the hot shoe). This is handy for getting rid of many of the downsides of flash, at the cost of reducing the amount of light added to the subject quite a bit. Many external flashes have diffusers available, or people wrap white paper in front. Mid-to-high end flashes can be angled/swivelled to bounce light off the ceiling/walls.
None of these (including just using bare flash) work too well in an unevenly and poorly lit high-ceiling museum. There were a couple of places at MOTAT where flash was a reasonable option.
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Post by nuuumannn on Oct 2, 2013 13:50:37 GMT 12
Great stuff; be sure to post your results, won't you, so we can tell you whether it worked or not!  |
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Post by ErrolC on Oct 2, 2013 15:19:25 GMT 12
The little plastic dohicky is actually a bit of a pain to carry around (doesn't go in the pocket of of a camera pouch). But yes, I should find a small tin or something to put it in and throw it in the soft day pack. I'm only taking a roll-along, and not my camera gear backpack.
I should note that I'm going to AWM to look at stuff, with photos very much a second priority.
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Post by corsair5517 on Oct 2, 2013 21:24:41 GMT 12
I should note that I'm going to AWM to look at stuff, with photos very much a second priority. Sent via Proboards Android App That goes for me, too; looking forward to visiting Canberra on my annual children-break and seeing what Australia's capital has to offer! The AWM is obviously right up there, but like Errol, am going to look at stuff with the camera being very much an afterthought, much as it was in Longreach, where the Catalina had its engines off! |
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