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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 15, 2013 18:13:44 GMT 12
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Post by ams888 on Nov 16, 2013 16:46:33 GMT 12
Being only a single bogie on each end it would only be able to be a select number of NZ trams, as most of our trams had two sets of wheels at each end. Also the rod that went up to the overhead wire would need to be changed as well. I think too our trams were narrow guage, so there would need to be a bit of modification done to make it truly representative, although from the picture of the tram at the Auckland waterfront it is quite similar... It would be a very interesting diorama having one of these with NZ troops in Wellington, ready to board ships to go and fight, etc...  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 16, 2013 19:32:13 GMT 12
I was thinking they could be having a fight on the tram, with Americans, in a Battle of Manners Street diorama.  it would be very cool. |
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Post by ams888 on Nov 17, 2013 19:03:22 GMT 12
That would be a very cool diorama. An actual 'Yank' invasion  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 17, 2013 19:32:23 GMT 12
Did trams run down Manners Street I wonder. I know that the trams of Wellington were overloaded with people trying to get out of the city, and those trams going back in were overloaded with reinforcements from the various military camps going into the city to join in.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 17, 2013 19:40:13 GMT 12
There was indeed a tram line in Manners Street in 1910 is seems, I wonder if it was still there in 1943?  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 17, 2013 19:43:36 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 17, 2013 19:53:23 GMT 12
Even better, this eyewitness describes watching the fighting from a tram in Manners Street, so he sets the scene perfectly for a diorama: Paper boy recalls Battle of Manners StCLIO FRANCIS Last updated 05:00 17/08/2011  WARTIME MEMORIES: John Owen, who was a paper boy for the Evening Post, remembers the Manners St riots during World War II. CRAIG SIMCOX/The Dominion Post He may have only been 13, but John Owen remembers the day in 1943 he was caught up in a skirmish that became known as the Battle of Manners St. Mr Owen, now 81, was a delivery boy for The Evening Post and was on his way home to Newtown after working at his newsstand outside the Hotel St George in Willis St. "I was on the tram and when we got to Manners St I could see there was an enormous crowd gathered," he said after reading a report, based on archives, about the battle in Saturday's Dominion Post. He looked out of the tram to see American servicemen and New Zealand troops fighting in the street. "There would be a group of two or three men fist-fighting, and then crowds of hundreds of people cheering them on. "The shore patrol, they were kind of the American police, were coming along with great big batons. The tram kept going and these American shore patrol guys were on either side of the tram with big truncheons and they were just knocking the American soldiers out. "The thing I remember most clearly was them placing the soldiers they had hit on the back of these flat-deck trucks they had. They looked like they were knocked clean out. "I think they were taking them back to the ships' base in Aotea Quay. But they just stacked them on the back of the truck – it was most peculiar." Afterwards, Mr Owen spoke with excitement to paper boys at the Evening Post about the brawl. Nothing was printed about the melee because of the wartime press blackout. "We were all talking about the big fight which had happened in town. I had all the inside news to tell the other paper boys because I'd been there, of course." He remembers a feeling of excitement when the Americans arrived in 1942. "Everyone was pleased to see them. There might have been the occasional tensions towards them because they certainly had more money and things like cigarettes than everyone else. "The thing that really struck you at that time was there was just so many of them; they were everywhere in town." Mr Owen went on to obtain one of the first criminology degrees at Victoria University, ran a youth detention centre in Thorndon and was chief executive of the Probation Service. - © Fairfax NZ News |
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Post by ams888 on Nov 17, 2013 21:41:13 GMT 12
 A southbound tram in Willis Street between mercer and Manners Streets. Hataitai bound “Fiducia” tram No.257 (now preserved at the Museum of Transport & Technology, Auckland). The Hataitai tram route closed on 5th November 1962. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 17, 2013 22:08:22 GMT 12
The Wellington trams of that era sadly seem a fair bit different to the model. Rounder roofs, different ends, deeper doorways...
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Post by airshowconsultants on Jan 26, 2014 14:39:01 GMT 12
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it would be very cool.
