ross123
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Post by ross123 on Dec 17, 2013 11:57:09 GMT 12
hello all I am researching info on Tiger Moth ZK-ATZ. I am writing an article for the Queensland Vintage Aeroplane Group's publication - Australian Vintage Aeroplane News (AVAN) www.qvag.org/avan.htmlI have done the usual google search and had some success. I am looking for info on Jack Hanlon and the Fokker D7 From its obituary " Jack Hanlon was driven by his enthusiasm for his work and his hobbies and few have applied themselves with such single-mindedness to unsparing labours day and night in pursuit of their interests. One recalls the early days when he would open his study book in the interval at the Cinema; his habits of working till well after midnight when immersed in designing his structures; the similar hours devoted to the making of a Fokker D7, a type of fighter plane used by the Germans in the First World War" I am also looking for info on L. Beaver of Masterton - a one time owner of the aeroplane. and W. Bower and Co - a Topdresser I have an old picture of thgis aeroplane and that is why I am researching it. cheers Ross |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 21, 2013 15:44:35 GMT 12
DH82A Tiger Moth ZK-ATZ was an Australian-built aircraft that was imported into NZ as a new machine to become NZ1405 with the RNZAF in October 1941. Post-war it remained in service until issued at no charge to the Middle Districts Aero Club of Palmerston North ex-Wigram on 25Nov49. It was assembled by the Otago aero club at Taieri before being flown north to its new owners in early 1950. After a few years as an aero club machine, ZK-ATZ was sold to W Bower & Co.Ltd., who were also based at Milson (Palmerston North), in mid-1954. Bowers were an aerial work company who converted ATZ into a topdressing aircraft, and it carried the name 'Popsie' while with them. They owned and/or operated about 10 other Tigers on ATD work during the 1950s. As with most ag-Tigers, ATZ had a number of 'incidents', culminating in a crash at Tiraumea, near Eketahuna, on 16Feb56. It was slowly rebuilt, as a two-seater this time, and passed to L E Beaver, Masterton, in October 1957. I have no further info on Beaver, and he/she does not appear to have owned any other NZ aircraft. It then moved through Aviation Sales & Service Ltd. of Palmerston North, an aircraft broker, and the Nelson aero club to Dunedin-based Jack Hanlon by 1959. At various times Hanlon also had ownership interests in two other Tigers - ZK-AKC and ZK-AKH. He was also into gliding, and presumably ATZ was used as a tug. Ownership of ATZ passed to the Otago gliding club two years later. After a few more incidents, ZK-ATZ was finally badly damaged at Underwood, Dunedin, on 27May67. The remains went to C S Pyper of Invercargill and were presumably patched up enough to become a static display piece at the Invercargill-based 12Sdn ATC. There was some talk of the aircraft later being in storage at Invercargill, but in the absence of any up to date reports, it may well have been incorporated in some other Tiger Moth rebuild.  In addition to the Tigers mentioned above, Jack Hanlon had at times full or part ownership of Chipmunk ZK-ARL, Cameron Hot-Air Balloon ZK-FBA, Slingsby T.42B glider ZK-GBG, EoN Olympia 2B ZK-GBI, Slingsby Skylark 2B ZK-GBY, Slingsby Dart 15 ZK-GDW, Glasflügel Kestrel ZK-GGW and Start + Flug Salto ZK-GIQ. I have no record of a Fokker D.VII in his name, but I am making enquiries. Jack was killed in the crash of Tiger Moth ZK-AKH at Waimate airfield 31Mar1975 during an Easter Monday air show. |
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merv
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Post by merv on Dec 21, 2013 17:16:15 GMT 12
I have just found some photographs of the demise of ZK-ATZ.
I photographed the aircraft at Taieri a couple of days before Colin Pyper bought it.
Then I photographed it again after he inverted it in a paddock at Underwood on 27th May 1967. The coordinates for the paddock are 46°20'14.90"S 168°19'14.13"E
Underwood is just out from Invercargill on the Riverton Highway. It certainly isn't "Port Underwood"
The accident was adjacent to the Nestlé Condensed Milk Factory.
Who can I send the photos too, so as they be downloaded on this site?
merv@teanau.co.nz
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Post by thomarse on Dec 21, 2013 17:26:13 GMT 12
Correct me if I'm wrong, but C S Pyper is better known as (the late) "Gus" Pyper is he not?
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merv
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Post by merv on Dec 21, 2013 18:44:39 GMT 12
Yes crashed on January 7, 1997,Western Samoa,
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 21, 2013 20:39:10 GMT 12
Who can I send the photos too, so as they be downloaded on this site? merv@teanau.co.nz email sent to you |
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bae
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Post by bae on Dec 22, 2013 0:46:14 GMT 12
I have just found some photographs of the demise of ZK-ATZ. I photographed the aircraft at Taieri a couple of days before Colin Pyper bought it. Then I photographed it again after he inverted it in a paddock at Underwood on 27th May 1967. The coordinates for the paddock are 46°20'14.90"S 168°19'14.13"E Underwood is just out from Invercargill on the Riverton Highway. It certainly isn't "Port Underwood" The accident was adjacent to the Nestlé Condensed Milk Factory. Who can I send the photos too, so as they be downloaded on this site? merv@teanau.co.nz Very interesting as I was told many years ago that Underwood was the site of the first ever hillclimb venue for cars in Southland. The event started on the Riverton side of the road and motored up the hill, past the milk factory. No one could verify the event but I guess it may have happened. |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 22, 2013 21:25:06 GMT 12
I have contacted two NZ aviation gurus re Hanlon's involvement with a Fokker D.VII
Neither myself or they have any knowledge of such a project.
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ross123
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Post by ross123 on Dec 23, 2013 8:12:51 GMT 12
Who can I send the photos too, so as they be downloaded on this site? merv@teanau.co.nz email sent to you |
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ross123
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Post by ross123 on Dec 23, 2013 8:19:23 GMT 12
I would have thought that someone building a Fokker D7 replica would be known about and strange that it is so prominantly mentioned in the obituary. Who else was building a Fokker D7 around the time of his death?
cheers
Ross
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 23, 2013 16:26:31 GMT 12
4 Fokker D.VII replicas have appeared on the register.
We can discount The Vintage Aviator's ZK-FOD/2 as we know this was ex the "Blue Max' film
The other three:
Squadron Aviation Fokker D.VII ZK-FQR reg March 1988 to an Ashburton Owner, canc May 1995.
Airdrome Aeroplanes Fokker D.VII Replica ZK-FKR reg March 2012 to an owner in Queenstown
Airdrome Aeroplanes Fokker D.VII Replica ZK-FKG/2 reg Sep 2012 to an owner in Ashburton.
Of course there may well be other projects around not yet completed.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 23, 2013 19:52:25 GMT 12
There are two of those Blue Max replicas in NZ aren't there? One that flies and one hanging in the Omaka AHC.
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Post by shorty on Dec 23, 2013 20:51:48 GMT 12
The build of a D VII rings bells with me, I don't think it was completed (hence no rego) but I would need to do a search through some magazines to confirm. May do that it lousy weather keeps me housebound.
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Post by aeromuzz on Dec 24, 2013 8:32:07 GMT 12
There are two of those Blue Max replicas in NZ aren't there? One that flies and one hanging in the Omaka AHC. I think you'rer getting confused with the 2 ex-Blue Max Pfalz D.III replicas, one which flies at Masterton and the other is in the AHC. The ex-Blue Max Fokker D.VII flies out of Masterton as well. I'm sure that the Airdrome Aeroplanes Fokker D.VII Replicas are scaled replicas. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 24, 2013 10:09:06 GMT 12
Oh yes, quite correct, thanks for that.
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Post by Dave.K on Dec 24, 2013 11:48:32 GMT 12
Hi Dave, if you contact Tom Grant who owns SE5a ZK-TOM and an albatross he had a lot to do with Jack Hanlon and tigers way back, rebuilt AKC in the 70's. I grew up at Taieri and recall Jack building a Focker, but Tom will set the record straight.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 29, 2013 16:24:08 GMT 12
I have just found some photographs of the demise of ZK-ATZ. I photographed the aircraft at Taieri a couple of days before Colin Pyper bought it. Then I photographed it again after he inverted it in a paddock at Underwood on 27th May 1967. Merv's photos of ZK-ATZ just before and just after its final accident:     Needs a bit more than Bruce with his WD40 and roll of duct tape, by the look of it. Also have a photo of this Tiger from Ross Stenhouse. Can just make out the final 'Z' of the underwing rego in the original scan.  Date/location unknown. (My pick is during its glider-towing days, and the fellow on the left has just swung the prop). Any info on where, when and who? |
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