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Post by nuuumannn on Jan 18, 2014 12:47:43 GMT 12
I guess the Hanriot's appearance at airshows depends on what work has been done on it since its arrival in New Zealand; it hasn't flown since the early/mid 70s; it was sent to Paris to take part in the '73 Paris Airshow, but bad weather prevented its flying and the crash of the Tu-144 claimed headlines and the little Hanriot was overlooked. It would be interesting to find out what sort of condition its structure was in prior to overhaul at Cardington. Its wings are not original as when Richard Shuttleworth crashed it, the wings were sent somewhere (can't remember where) to be rebuilt and some time during the war they were burned. Rumour has it some very cold Home Guard blokes threw them on the fire to keep warm!
During its restoration at Cardington there were original features installed in the aircraft and Irish linen replaced the fabric to make it more authentic. It arrived at Hendon in 1979 after restoration and sat among the rest of Hendon's Great War collection in the main hall and had been there until being put in the Grahame White hangar. Like I said earlier, it was very tail heavy, more so than the Pup, Triplane and SE.5a and this always struck me as unusual since its a very small aeroplane.
6 survivors, oops, must have missed the one at Dubendorf.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 18, 2014 14:50:05 GMT 12
I've just been out at the new Masterton Motorplex Drag-Racing Strip checking it out during the first day of an informal shake-down drag meet they are holding this weekend, and I noticed that TVAL have got a billboard up on the corner of South Road and Manaia Raod advertising the next WWI airshow as being at Hood on 22nd February.
So that settles it then....there is a TVAL airshow on Saturday 22nd February.
BTW....the new drag-strip is a really great set up. The first official meet isn't until next month, but this weekend they have it open to anybody who pays an entry fee and whose car can pass scrutineering. It gives them an opportunity to iron out any bugs in the timing system and other facilities, as well as get plenty of rubber laid down on the strip ready for when racing begins in earnest next month.
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Post by dinor on Jan 18, 2014 15:54:54 GMT 12
Back in 2009 I was lucky enough to visit Vigna di Valle whilst on holiday with my family. Unearthed this shot of the Hanriot and it gives some scale with the mannequin. Unfortunately only had a couple of hours as it was off our original itinarary. Wife and Daughter getting into the icecream whilst son and I dash around does not make for the greatest of environment If there is any interest I can post some more shots of the displays in a separate thread ? Cheers Dino Italian Air Force Museum17 by DinoR2, on Flickr
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Post by Brett on Jan 18, 2014 19:17:58 GMT 12
Here is the one in Belgium from 2009 - it is in the same markings as the RAF Museum example: Here is the Swiss example, also from 2009: Here is the one at Planes of Fame, from last year: I also have photos of the TVAL one taken when it was in the RAF Museum, but my photographic skills were no match for the lighting conditions there. The video posted previously is a much better reference. Cheers, Brett
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Post by BenG on Jan 18, 2014 20:55:44 GMT 12
Hi from France - great to see the HD-1 is now registered. Although it was not used by our air force, I hope there will be soon a new run of HD-1 produced by TVAL.
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Post by nuuumannn on Jan 19, 2014 9:20:04 GMT 12
Nice pictures, Brett, not seen an image of the Planes of Fame one. The one in Brussels, H-78 along with the former RAF Museum example are in the markings of 1e Escadrille de Chasse; the 1st Belgian fighter squadron with the Thistle as its emblem. There's a Camel at Brussels in the same markings.
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Post by airshowconsultants on Jan 25, 2014 3:44:06 GMT 12
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Post by Brett on Feb 11, 2014 7:19:58 GMT 12
I had a quick look at this Hanriot a couple of days ago. It has retained the markings it wore in the RAF museum. The work TVAL have done has concentrated on getting the aircraft airworthy, rather than trying to make it all sparkly and new. They hope to have it flying at the show later this month.
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Post by airshowconsultants on Feb 12, 2014 4:37:59 GMT 12
As c/n 75 it does have a convoluted history: "Used by 1 em Escadrille de Chasse, Aviation Militaire Belge, according to RAF sources it was flown post-war at an international aerobatics championship at Nice, France in March 1922, by no less than Willy Coppens, who despite having lost most of his left leg during the war, strapped his other leg to the rudder bar – and won! It was disposed of in 1934, being put on the Belgian Register as OO-APJ. When the aircraft was seen in a dilapidated state by no-less a person than Richard Shuttleworth, he purchased it for just £15, and registered it as G-AFDX. Restored to flight status, it flew until a 1939 landing accident at Old Warden. Following the death of Richard Shuttleworth during the war, the stored remains were exported to the U.S.A. in 1962, where it was restored, and flown once more. In 1978, the aircraft was donated to the RAF Museum, Hendon and completely re-built at the Museum’s Restoration Centre at Cardington. Initially displayed in the main museum building at Hendon, (between the SE.5a and Westland Wallace, if I remember correctly), when the magnificent Grade II* Listed Building, the Grahame-White Factory, was restored on the Hendon site, the Hanriot was moved in there along with the bulk of the World War One collection." www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/19/1167871/-Hanriot-HD-1-a-stranger-in-a-strange-land#
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Post by airshowconsultants on Feb 12, 2014 4:41:15 GMT 12
Yes....those are from a piece I wrote for Daily Kos, then re-published in my own blog 'Shortfinals'.
The HAnriot aircraft at Hendon has a fully documented history, including a 'sdie trip' to the States, but that particular airframe never made it down to NZ.
It was fun walking around the RAF Museum at Hendon - and even MORE fun going around to RAFM Cosford.
Cheers
SF
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Feb 22, 2014 22:41:23 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 23, 2014 9:57:53 GMT 12
Is that Spanish colours? Or Belgian perhaps?
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Post by ErrolC on Feb 23, 2014 10:23:57 GMT 12
Per earlier posts, markings haven't changed from RAF Museum.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 23, 2014 10:46:45 GMT 12
Oh, thanks.
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Post by airshowconsultants on Feb 28, 2014 15:03:51 GMT 12
I'd just like to point out that since 1978, the Hanriot HD-1 that the RAF Museum owns has NOT been loaned/disposed of; it has a completely known history, and, despite rumours, has never been to New Zealand. I have carefully looked through the RAF's records for this example, and it is as I have published in the 'Shortfinals' blog.
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Post by delticman on Feb 28, 2014 16:11:39 GMT 12
I'd just like to point out that since 1978, the Hanriot HD-1 that the RAF Museum owns has NOT been loaned/disposed of; it has a completely known history, and, despite rumours, has never been to New Zealand. I have carefully looked through the RAF's records for this example, and it is as I have published in the 'Shortfinals' blog. So where is it now?
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Feb 28, 2014 17:53:25 GMT 12
The eight photographs of the aeroplane posted on 22nd February show where it is now....it's at Hood Aerodrome in Wairarapa, New Zealand.
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Post by ErrolC on Feb 28, 2014 19:11:02 GMT 12
I'd just like to point out that since 1978, the Hanriot HD-1 that the RAF Museum owns has NOT been loaned/disposed of; it has a completely known history, and, despite rumours, has never been to New Zealand. I have carefully looked through the RAF's records for this example, and it is as I have published in the 'Shortfinals' blog. Couldn't find a direct announcement via my phone, but there was plenty of reporting at the time, including quotes from RAF Museum staff e.g. www.warbirdsnews.com/aviation-museum-news/rafm-trades-vintage-reproduction-aircraft.html Sent via Proboards Android App
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Post by raymond on Feb 28, 2014 19:41:13 GMT 12
Following on from Errols post. From a post dated in nov 2012 www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?12441-Another-new-WW1-bird-from-TVAL-in-NZ&s=bb8f87d102bda347ab97f723c788884b and the Hanriot is not listed as an aircraft at the RAF museum on the net "The downside is that they are shipping out aircraft from the Graham White hangar to Cosford to make room for the incoming stuff - the Hanriot was dismantled and awaiting transportation. The museum bod mentioned that they were expecting more aircraft over the next couple of years, wasn't referring to the Snipe and RE8 but didn't know what."
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 28, 2014 19:54:24 GMT 12
I'd just like to point out that since 1978, the Hanriot HD-1 that the RAF Museum owns has NOT been loaned/disposed of; it has a completely known history, and, despite rumours, has never been to New Zealand. I have carefully looked through the RAF's records for this example, and it is as I have published in the 'Shortfinals' blog. Ummm... huh??
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