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Post by McFly on Aug 26, 2014 7:32:47 GMT 12
3 Avro Sisters: BBMF, CWHM, Vulcan to the Sky  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 30, 2014 1:47:09 GMT 12
Oh dear, it looks like the Myrnaski Memorial Lancaster has suffered some damage  The crew were forced to do an emergency shut down of No. 3 engine and make a precautionary landing. The aircraft is now undergoing maintenance and hopefully repairs. |
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Post by baz62 on Aug 30, 2014 7:34:59 GMT 12
White smoke is usually a glycol leak. At least they'll have the expertise of the BBMF engineers to assist. Well done recovering her safely lads!
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Post by ErrolC on Aug 30, 2014 8:50:31 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 30, 2014 9:57:53 GMT 12
They are genuinely replicating Bomber Harris's policy of MAXIMUM EFFORT to get all aircraft up that can be gotten up.  |
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Post by baz62 on Aug 30, 2014 11:05:50 GMT 12
Ah an internal oil leak supplied the smoke out the exhausts. At least the engines held for NX611 are suitable for Vera.
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Post by nuuumannn on Aug 30, 2014 15:55:24 GMT 12
Thanks for posting that McFly. The clip kind of illustrates why it'd be hard to get an Anson in a flying formation. The cruise speed of the Lancaster (around 200 mph) is faster than the maximum speed of the Anson (T.21, 171 mph), which would make the Vulcan hard to slow down enough for the Anson's speed range. Perhaps an line up on the ground of some Avro classics, an Avro 504, Anson, the Lancasters and the Vulcan.
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Post by suthg on Sept 3, 2014 20:00:27 GMT 12
Well I happened across a YouTube video of the Vulcan Mission to the Falklands, not praising it up so much as praising the crews who made it happen. The thirsty Vulcan required 11 Victor Tankers to get from Ascension Islands to Falklands and back. There were 13 needed for the entire mission and were stationed at Ascension when they arrived. A complicated series for the 8000ml journey for at each stage they had a dedicated Victor refuelling the Vulcan while a squadron of other Victors fed half remaining, the emptied returning to home base to refuel and wait to assist later with the return flight of the Vulcan. In fact there were two Vulcans, one had a decompression failure in the cabin and had to turn back within 30mins of takeoff! In the end, only one bomb of 21 landed on the runway but it was sufficient. A very interesting documentary on the Vulcan, which was well past its best, in fact, at the time, it was past retiring and still had old Lancaster bomb aiming technology.
Dave, if you feel this needs its own thread, then please move it, but it had links with the Lanc and it was the only active mission to drop ordinance in anger for any Vulcan sortie.
Some may have seen this 45 min doc as a one hr tv program... BRITISH FALKLANDS WAR: The Empire Strikes Back
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Post by nuuumannn on Sept 8, 2014 17:01:01 GMT 12
Just a bit of an addition. The raids were called Operation Black Buck and the second Vulcan was a back up and was prepared to fly the op in case the first suffered failure. Ten Vulcans were selected for BB ops, but only five made it to Ascension. The Lancaster bomb aiming technology is not quite accurate. Yes, the Vulcan had H2S, which was a ground mapping radar but it was a touch more sophisticated than that aboard the Lanc, not to forget the electronic wizardry that was added to assist in target ingress. The BB raids were radar guided, but Lancs nominally bombed visually, although a bomb aimer's position was placed in the lower nose of the Vulcan, it was not used in practise. By the early 80s the technology was certainly obsolete though. The Vulcans did use modern electronics, on each BB raid they were fitted with an AN/ALQ-101 'Dash Ten' jamming pod, which deterred enemy radars, which was carried on an under wing pylon, although the Vulcans flying anti radar missile raids didn't have this. The aircraft were also fitted with modern inertial guidance systems robbed from out of service British Airways airliners considering the distances they had to fly. The book Vulcan 607 by Rowland White is a good starting point.
Not quite. XM607 was used on more than one bombing sortie and you are forgetting the anti radar sorties flown by XM597, which on its last op had to divert to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil after its IFR probe broke. Both '597 and 607 still survive, the former in Scotland and the latter at RAF Waddington. Other BB Vulcans to survive include XM594 at Newark and XM598, which flew as secondary to '607 on its first BB ops, at RAF Cosford.
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Post by TS on Sept 8, 2014 17:05:25 GMT 12
Three Lancaster Bombers.  |
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Post by baz62 on Sept 8, 2014 18:10:20 GMT 12
Coolest thing I've seen since watching the Mosquito flying at Ardmore! |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 8, 2014 18:57:39 GMT 12
Marvellous!
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Post by TS on Sept 8, 2014 19:00:31 GMT 12
Absolutely BUT this guy is not very Happy...... |
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Post by TS on Sept 9, 2014 22:12:15 GMT 12
Same thing but slightly different angles.... Can't be a bad thing really, we can see it happen again on Sept 14th (UK date and time) IF only MOTAT's could at least Taxi  |
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Post by baz62 on Oct 2, 2014 21:16:24 GMT 12
Good video taken from back seat of P51 Mustang as it and P40 Kittyhawk formate on Lancaster on return to Canada. Check out the exhaust staining on the nacelles towards the end. Something you don't see on these aircraft these days unless they do a LOT of flying. Click HERE |
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Post by nuuumannn on Oct 3, 2014 13:05:12 GMT 12
Haaa haa! Hilarious!
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Post by suthg on Nov 21, 2014 19:44:39 GMT 12
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