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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 2, 2014 19:09:50 GMT 12
In WWII one of the most vital weapons to New Zealand soldiers was the hand grenade, but I was wondering does our Army still use grenades? And if yes, are they much the same as the '36' hand grenade our Army used in WWII? Or has technology developed them further?
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Post by Andy Wright on Mar 3, 2014 9:30:09 GMT 12
From what I've seen of footage in Afghanistan the grenade is still an effective means of introducing your arrival in a room of the building you're trying to clear. Can't see why they wouldn't have them. As to technology, no idea. Different material and explosive perhaps?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 3, 2014 13:00:20 GMT 12
Yes, but I have never seen any photos or footage of our NZ Army using them so wondered if they actually do? I guess they must do, it would be silly not to. Although who knows, Labour may well have banned them too at some stage.
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Post by Andy Wright on Mar 3, 2014 14:10:41 GMT 12
Well, they are a bit of a health and safety issue so...
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 3, 2014 14:15:08 GMT 12
True. I guess they'd need to don a fluro vest, saftey glasses and a hard hat every time grenades are issued now.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Mar 3, 2014 17:21:56 GMT 12
. . . Labour may well have banned them too at some stage. Yes, they might hurt somebody. |
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Post by scrooge on Mar 3, 2014 18:39:34 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 3, 2014 18:55:52 GMT 12
OK, thanks for that Andrew.
I wonder what sort of grenades they use.
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Post by machpants on Mar 3, 2014 19:05:08 GMT 12
As far as I know, from my buddies Dad ex Major in the TA (tho this was a while ago now) the Army uses the US M67 frag grenade. But memory could be serving me wrong...
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Post by alanw on Mar 3, 2014 19:38:43 GMT 12
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Post by Luther Moore on Mar 3, 2014 19:51:02 GMT 12
Well, they are a bit of a health and safety issue so... |
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Post by SEAN on Mar 4, 2014 11:17:29 GMT 12
Well, they are a bit of a health and safety issue so... The Army is phasing out their old DM61A1 Grenades, and replacing them with the new 85A1 Frag Grenades, or so I am told. |
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Post by meo4 on Mar 5, 2014 20:05:08 GMT 12
The current issue NZDF grenade is the DM61 the green HE one of the left the practice grenade one is the DM72 on right. Think they are German manufacturer.  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 5, 2014 21:30:54 GMT 12
Thanks for that. So they have not really changed much in design from the WWI Mills Bomb and WWII '36' grenade. Interesting.
It seems the German WWII stick grenades were no match for the '36' grenades, and often did little or no damage to anything. Quite amazing.
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Post by currawong on Jul 25, 2014 23:20:50 GMT 12
Dave, from memory of my misspent youth in the infantry, the two types of grenade are designed for different things.
The pineapple looking one needs to be used from cover. The stick grenade does not; designed for use in the assault without harming the user.
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Post by kiwiwreckdiver on Nov 21, 2017 14:07:00 GMT 12
Does anyone know where the old Mills grenade ranges were next to and which camps ??
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