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Post by isc on May 28, 2015 21:39:30 GMT 12
Looks like the C-17 win for room, even at the lowest point, thanks Beagle. isc
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Post by gungadin on Jun 8, 2015 15:28:15 GMT 12
Actually I think the best option would be the Kawasaki C-2 as looks as if it is big enough to enable the carriage of a single NH-90 and has 2 real engines for speed although, the A400M having a total of approx 40000 hp could make it an interesting proposition in 2000/25 after they have sorted out the many problems it seems to have at present. If you want for real power then the AN40 with up to 10% more more power than the A400M would make for an interesting competition. Pity they are made in the Ukraine with Russian engines although the Russians seem to have a preference for large fan engines as they have put the Il-72M back into production.
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Post by gungadin on Jun 8, 2015 16:18:26 GMT 12
I forgot the Brazilian CG-390 but it is designed as a direct replacement for the C-130 so it is unable to carry a NH-90 the without extensive disassembly
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Post by beagle on Jun 8, 2015 18:28:16 GMT 12
I think some people have suggested the KC390 as an accompaniment to the C17. As with the A400, a few more years of settling in needs to be done.
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Post by gungadin on Jun 8, 2015 20:11:18 GMT 12
"Settling in" is the most important period in the development of new aircraft especially the very complex systems that are used to operate modern aircraft such as the computerized systems used on the E.G. A400M
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Post by isc on Jun 8, 2015 22:26:11 GMT 12
Gungadin, I was looking at the C-2 the other day, main problem I see with it, it may only have a short production run unless the Japanese manage to get some large over seas orders, the C-17, like the C-130 have the advantage of numbers in service. It looks interesting all the same. isc
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Post by gungadin on Jun 10, 2015 18:52:35 GMT 12
ics, The main problem the Japanese have is the post ww2 rule that forbids the export of military equipment. However, Kawasaki are apparantly developing a commercial aviation version
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Post by conman on Jun 10, 2015 19:12:14 GMT 12
I think prohibition on military sales might have been repealed recently, as the Australians are looking to buy Japanese submarines, a problem at the moment with the rear cargo door, although I am sure that will be sorted in due course, and if the final product is as reliable as Japanese cars then that would be pretty good
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Post by beagle on Jun 10, 2015 19:49:28 GMT 12
One of two additional C-17 Globemasters for the RAAF has been seen on the ramp outside Boeing’s Long Beach plant.
This image by Australian Aviation photo contributor Steve Allsopp taken on May 22 shows the aircraft wearing the RAAF serial A41-213, suggesting it is the second of the two new airlifters due for delivery later this year – the existing six RAAF C-17s are serialled A41-206 through to A41-211.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott confirmed the acquistion of the two additional C-17s, taking the RAAF fleet to eight, in April this year. At that time the seventh C-17 was to be delivered in July/August with the eighth following by the end of the year.
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Post by ErrolC on Jun 11, 2015 22:27:59 GMT 12
Hi all. I'm not too sure if this link will work or not but there are some interesting pics of an NH 90 being loaded onto an RAAF C-17 and it looks like there was space to spare as well. NH 90 in a C-17And several photos of folding rotors and stowing on HMNZS Canterbury.
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Post by kiwirob on Jun 16, 2015 6:22:52 GMT 12
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Post by frankly on Jun 16, 2015 7:37:53 GMT 12
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Post by beagle on Jun 16, 2015 12:58:10 GMT 12
Well you know what that means then. Ya left it too late Jerry
So looks like the C17 is out of the running, which sort of gives us a bit more dollars to play with. 6 x A400 and 6 C295. Would the C235 be too big for twin engine training as part of the wings course instead of the Beechcraft
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Post by jimit on Jun 17, 2015 2:48:36 GMT 12
Just a question from overseas: Do NZ interest in a real common inventory with Australia? And opposite of course... A400M is a valid option for NZ ( maybe more reliable than C-17) but I wonder if a few planes are affordable by economics point of view (just some examples such as logistic, training, maintenance), so far to Europe and the major A400M's operators.
However in case of a big deal including C-295 ( maybe in two duties transport/ASW), will be to achieves a optimum logistical support ( in relationship Air New Zealand Airbus Customer)
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Post by SEAN on Jun 17, 2015 9:50:08 GMT 12
I guess now that most if not all the white tail C17's have been sold, and now that Airbus are going to buy Safe Air, we now know what we will be getting....Roll on the Atlas.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 17, 2015 10:33:18 GMT 12
So the new planes are to be built at Woodbourne? (just keeping the wild rumours flying...)
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Post by SEAN on Jun 17, 2015 11:02:51 GMT 12
Na not build, but if Airbus are buying Safe, like the Herald suggested this morning, then putting 2 and 2 together they would not be considering a purchase like Safe Air unless we were going to BUY their Aircraft, which they would then maintain at Woodbourne.
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Post by ErrolC on Jun 17, 2015 13:45:41 GMT 12
The Spanish seem to have gone off them, can we queue-jump the production wait and get their's?
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Post by isc on Jun 17, 2015 20:08:21 GMT 12
I think the US militry has a few in moth balls, how about second hand. isc
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Post by macnz on Jun 18, 2015 3:05:29 GMT 12
So the new planes are to be built at Woodbourne? (just keeping the wild rumours flying...) So we want wild rumours? "The Textron AirLand Scorpion is an aircraft in high demand ... Sales discussions also are ongoing with several potential buyers. Anderson says three nations are “beyond initial interest”, while one – in the Pacific region – is poised to issue a request for proposals." Source: www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/paris-scorpion-shows-new-sensor-combination-as-interest-413589/Mind-you might be difficult to double bill these aircraft as VIP aircraft for our pollies esp. Gerry
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