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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 26, 2007 12:20:53 GMT 12
As the world's only Avro 626 is permanently grounded in the RNZAF Museum, wouldn't it be nice of an exact replica was built to fly on the airshow circuit.
I'm sure as the RNZAF rebuilt their one there must be adequate drawings about, and the only stumbling block would be finding a serviceable engine. However, if an unserviceable one could be fitted to the real 626 at Wigram and the perfectly serviceable example that's wasted sitting there inhibited was fitted to a flyer, problem solved.
Nice idea? I think so. It'd be a great airshow performer and could do ceremonial stuff for the RNZAF like the real one used to.
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Post by Bruce on Mar 26, 2007 18:06:54 GMT 12
How about a replica Gloster Grebe? that would make a fine project, perhaps a homebuilder (the Grebe wasnt very big, and had relatively conventional construction techniques) An Armstrong Siddeney Jaguar might be a bit hard to come by, but an Ivchenko M14P would probably suffice.
Bothe the 626 and Grebe would be ideal replica projects - great idea!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 26, 2007 18:35:15 GMT 12
That's a great idea too Bruce. And to complete the prewar trio, how about a lovely Hawker Tomtit.
The likes of homebuilders through to professional restorers such as Croydon Aircraft Co. could handle such projects I'm sure. So long as they're full scale and accuarte looking, they'd be awesome.
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Post by ozrbfan on Mar 26, 2007 18:45:09 GMT 12
what about a bristol bulldog or aw siskin they'd both be nice,a p12 would also be nice
paul
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 26, 2007 19:39:41 GMT 12
Yeah, but those types don't have a Kiwi connection. There is/was a Siskin replica flying in the UK
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Post by novicepilot on Mar 27, 2007 21:36:45 GMT 12
Siskin in the UK? We had a flying Bulldog in the 60's (now in the RAF Museum) but nothing other than Hawker types (Hind, Hart, also now in the RAF Museum, Fury replica and the recent Nimrods) the Gladiator and Flycatcher replica since then. Having just typed that, that's not a bad selection by any standards, but no Siskin. Maybe you thinking of the Bulldog or Flycatcher?
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Post by Bruce on Mar 27, 2007 21:47:47 GMT 12
I did a quick bit of research into the feasability of building an Ivchenko - powered grebe and it may take a little bit of lateral thinking. Obviously an AS Jaguar was a 14 cylinder 2 row radial, and the M14PF is only 9cyl single row, but by the time the inlet and exhaust manfolds are added it would have a similar bulk and feel to it. Although both are 400hp, the Jaguar was about 150kg heavier (Dry weight) than the Ivchenko. To keep the same nose length as the original there will need to be some ballast weight added somewhere up front. Other than thatit is entirely feasable - construction is very simple and the aircraft is smaller than my homebuilt - once I get that one finished (hopefully this year) I could start a Grebe if anyone is interested in forming a syndicate!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 28, 2007 0:47:20 GMT 12
Novicepilot, yes I think I was thinking of the Flycatcher, my apologies.
Bruce, the Grebe would be a nifty little flyer too, and small so easy to hangar. Also they came insingle and dual seaters so if you draw up a good plan other homebuilders may want to buy it and you can recoup your costs. Best of all, they only cost 2500 pounds (or at least they did when Sir Henry Wigram bought the first one for NZ).
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Post by stevechch on Oct 21, 2023 20:11:23 GMT 12
I did a quick bit of research into the feasability of building an Ivchenko - powered grebe and it may take a little bit of lateral thinking. Obviously an AS Jaguar was a 14 cylinder 2 row radial, and the M14PF is only 9cyl single row, but by the time the inlet and exhaust manfolds are added it would have a similar bulk and feel to it. Although both are 400hp, the Jaguar was about 150kg heavier (Dry weight) than the Ivchenko. To keep the same nose length as the original there will need to be some ballast weight added somewhere up front. Other than thatit is entirely feasable - construction is very simple and the aircraft is smaller than my homebuilt - once I get that one finished (hopefully this year) I could start a Grebe if anyone is interested in forming a syndicate! |
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Post by stevechch on Oct 21, 2023 20:13:07 GMT 12
Did anything come from your Grebe project.
I'm with you, it's totally feasible to build one. Just need to get some actual interest.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 21:32:41 GMT 12
The gentleman who has the Anzani project underway is working on the Grebe as a follow up to his current projects. He has asked me to handle media for him and news will be forthcoming soon.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 23, 2023 8:34:10 GMT 12
Which Anzani project Zac? Is this in NZ?
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Post by snaphead on Oct 23, 2023 8:53:43 GMT 12
If I recall correctly, the Avro 626 was built in # 5 hangar by W/O Jim of Fielding who was a qualified home builder. His surname eludes me at the moment. I recall it being assembled in ASS (5 hangar ) amongst Strikmasters & A4 Skyhawks.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 23, 2023 10:13:46 GMT 12
Jim Fordyce was the chap. Along with a few others including Paul McSweeny and I think Buck Harrison was also involved, although that may have only been later when he looked after it on the Historic Flight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2023 20:20:33 GMT 12
Which Anzani project Zac? Is this in NZ? It is in NZ, here at Omaka in fact! |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 24, 2023 20:30:43 GMT 12
Oh, that one.
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