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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 10, 2017 13:27:48 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 16:12:53 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 10, 2017 16:18:49 GMT 12
Does that mean it's too big to fit in at Devonport? Or is the home port a symbollic thing?
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Post by Bruce on Apr 10, 2017 16:47:57 GMT 12
Does that mean it's too big to fit in at Devonport? Or is the home port a symbollic thing? Symbolic, each RNZN ship has an Honorary home port, generally related to the name of the vessel - Canterbury has Lyttelton, Otago has Port Chalmers etc. Te Kaha Is Napier, Te Mana Tauranga. They are all based at Devonport. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 10, 2017 17:02:56 GMT 12
I thought that was the case. I seem to recall HMNZS Waikato's home port was Hamilton, which makes me laugh thinking of a frigate pulling in there.
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Post by conman on Apr 11, 2017 9:24:01 GMT 12
You could probably get a frigate up the Waikato at the moment
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 11, 2017 15:58:49 GMT 12
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Post by Bruce on Apr 11, 2017 16:55:33 GMT 12
um... Pukaki, Hawea, Manawanui, Taupo, Rotoiti, Te Kaha, Te Mana... Its not like its a radical new direction! (and these are historic names too...) what do they want, a great NZ name like "Black Prince"?... although probably "Royalist" would appeal to some...  |
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Post by ErrolC on Apr 11, 2017 17:01:23 GMT 12
um... Pukaki, Hawea, Manawanui, Taupo, Rotoiti, Te Kaha, Te Mana... Its not like its a radical new direction! (and these are historic names too...) what do they want, a great NZ name like "Black Prince"?... although probably "Royalist" would appeal to some... Proper British names like Achilles? |
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Post by Bruce on Apr 11, 2017 18:54:09 GMT 12
If they are worried about how easy it is to pronounce Aotearoa, they might prefer some heritage British ship names like Diomede, Calliope, Amphion, Phaeton, Imperieuse, Sutlej, Magicienne, Melpomene, Indefatigable, Terpsichore, Charybdis, Pyramus, or even Doris!
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 11, 2017 19:13:29 GMT 12
I'd wind them up about it at WhaleOil, but I have been booted out of there so many times for upsetting the poor sensitive wee souls that I cannot be bothered creating fresh email addresses and nicknames to get back in there to post comments again.
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Post by madmac on Apr 11, 2017 19:37:43 GMT 12
I seen to recall some nations have a historical reluctance to ships after nations due to the propaganda value of sinking them. The UK has never had a warship call England or Britain.
Other classic RN ship names include Villa de Paris & Asia.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 11, 2017 21:19:44 GMT 12
Hitler ordered the renaming of the pocket battleship Deutschland to Lützow because of the embarassment it would cause Germany if she was sunk in battle.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 12, 2017 15:23:31 GMT 12
I think you'll find HMNZS Aotearoa is named in honour of the famous Split Enz Kiwi classic, Six Months In A Leaky Boat. I heard once that song was actually written about a tour served by one of the band in an RNZN Frigate, so I guess it makes sense they pay tribute back.
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Post by Mustang51 on Apr 12, 2017 16:43:05 GMT 12
Harsh Dave........
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 12, 2017 18:13:35 GMT 12
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Post by macnz on May 14, 2017 18:17:08 GMT 12
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Post by ErrolC on May 14, 2017 19:12:40 GMT 12
Have you heard of the Endeavour Peace Accord? Such support vessels are a non-threatening (but secure) location for diplomatic activities. So its good if you have provision for an Ambassador/Cabinet Minister-level person staying on-board.
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Post by frankly on May 15, 2017 15:27:07 GMT 12
166 m-long, 24,000 tonne, 1 VIP? VIP typically means a cabin of the same standard as the CO - i.e what you'd expect a LTCOL(E) to stay in. SaveSave |
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Post by rayo on May 15, 2017 17:44:19 GMT 12
I seen to recall some nations have a historical reluctance to ships after nations due to the propaganda value of sinking them. The UK has never had a warship call England or Britain. Other classic RN ship names include Villa de Paris & Asia. There is precedence here with HMS New Zealand which was a WW1 Battle Cruiser which was to all intents and purposes HMNZS NZ except there was no RNZN at that time. Anyway it was funded by the NZ Government and it's sister ship by the same arrangement was HMAS Australia!!! |
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