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Post by camtech on Jul 27, 2017 12:25:11 GMT 12
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Jul 27, 2017 19:04:53 GMT 12
Fantastic photo!!
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Post by camtech on Jul 27, 2017 19:26:07 GMT 12
 Avro 504, DH9 Sockburn by * bilko, on Flickr Think we have it now. Avro 504k E9424, plus two more, DH9 H5672 and D3189 NZ Aero Transport, Timaru. From the Leo White collection |
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Post by isc on Jul 27, 2017 21:35:29 GMT 12
You'v got it camtech, I wonder if that photo will be there in another90 years, the original one has the prospect of going that far and probably another 100 years past that. It's a great clear photo. isc
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 27, 2017 22:12:37 GMT 12
Great photo Les. Great photo of Wigram, and the aircraft. What an interesting color scheme that is on DH9 D3139.
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Post by camtech on Jul 27, 2017 22:46:00 GMT 12
Yes - lovely clear photo. It was in amongst a pile of newspaper cuttings I have been scanning, and I thought well worth sharing.
The three aircraft were part of Aero Transport, of Timaru. I did a closeup of the scan to see if I could identify the other two 504's, but no joy. I recall seeing that ripple scheme somewhere else.
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Post by davidd on Jul 28, 2017 12:58:15 GMT 12
Is that Wigram location confirmed, or could it be Washdyke?
David D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 28, 2017 13:05:43 GMT 12
Come to think of it the hangar and the trees do not look quite right for Wigram, do they?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 13:32:32 GMT 12
Oh wow, what a photo!
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Post by errolmartyn on Jul 28, 2017 13:43:12 GMT 12
Is that Wigram location confirmed, or could it be Washdyke? David D Yes, it's Washdyke, Timaru HQ for Rodolph ('Wigs') Wigley's New Zealand Aero Transport company. Errol |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 28, 2017 15:08:47 GMT 12
Thanks Errol, that is even better, not only have I never seen a photo of Washdyke aerodrome, I never even realised there was an airfield there. Off to Google Maps to find out exactly where Washdyke is now...
Edit: Oh, down near Timaru.... now I know.
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Post by sailorsid on Jul 28, 2017 15:46:51 GMT 12
Up near the north end of Washdyke, some of the origional buildings or hangars are still there. part of Roonies yard
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jul 28, 2017 18:59:01 GMT 12
Its on the main road, RHS heading north, directly opposite the racecourse.
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Post by camtech on Jul 29, 2017 11:15:30 GMT 12
Just found a bunch more prewar stuff, mainly from Whites, that I'll scan and put up in the next few days.
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Post by camtech on Aug 3, 2017 12:24:22 GMT 12
 NZPAF 1927 Refresher Course Avro 504K A205 by Les Billcliff, on Flickr This appears to be the pilots on the refresher course. Acouple of faces look familiar, but that's the test - can anyone name them. Names on the back of the photo are M Buckley, J L Findlay and T M Wilkes.  Sockburn 1920s Avro 504K A205 by Les Billcliff, on Flickr This appears to be the staff at Wigram/Sockburn during the same course - both posed against Avro 504K A205  NZ Aero Transport aircraft Timaru 1921 by Les Billcliff, on Flickr This is a similar photo to the original one I posted, but is not as sharp  Refresher course NZ Weekly News 24 Feb 1927 by Les Billcliff, on Flickr And finally for this batch, one from the NZ Weekly News. Unfortunately, no serials are discernable due to the newsprint, but could well be during the same refresher course as above. The earlier photos are all ex Whites. |
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Post by davidd on Aug 3, 2017 14:24:41 GMT 12
Some great stuff there! The photo of the refresher course seems to include Bert Mercer on extreme left in white overalls. The next photo of school staff looks as though it might also include Bill Parke, the groundsman, sitting at front, also extreme left, and that would have to be Bill Dini, also sitting on ground, second from right. The chap on his left is familiar too, often see him appearing in early Wigram shots. Note the lack of any uniforms, they didn't have any at this time, and working on aeroplanes was dirty work, so why wreck your good clothes. Also interesting in this shot is the machine number stencilled in very small letters just behind and below front cockpit. The final photo was also used at the RNZAF Museum in the old cafeteria, extra large size, so probable that Museum has the original negative (or took a good copy).
David D
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Post by camtech on Aug 3, 2017 15:00:08 GMT 12
Thanks, David.
The last photo was actually attributed to Green and Hahn in the Weekly News - well known photographers of that era.
I have some more that I will post as time goes on - suffering from an extremely painful right shoulder after playing XBox boxing and table tennis with three of our grandchildren, so may take a while.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 3, 2017 15:43:49 GMT 12
The Press newspaper listed the following pilots on this course on 1st Feb 1927: Captain N. Barlow, Lieutenant H. C. Lloyd Lieutenant E. A. S. Wilding Lieutenant J. C. Mercer Second-Lieutenant A. V. Gladstone Second-Lieutenant R. B. Reynolds Second-Lieutenant H L. Piper Second-Lieutenant K. A. McKenzie Second-Lieutenant H. W. Duffey |
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Post by davidd on Aug 4, 2017 19:19:54 GMT 12
The photo of the refresher course above shows (from the extreme right) Buckley, Findlay, and Wilkes, these were on the permanent staff. These of course were the names on the back of photo. The fellow to left of Wilkes with the furrowed brow looks very familiar too, but do not know his name as yet. E A S Wilding should read E A F Wilding, and I presume the H L Piper mentioned was the one who later became famous as Harold "Pip" Piper, test pilot with Short Brothers in 1930s and through WW2. Piper could very well be the shortish chap to left of the fellow with the furrowed brow, looks very much like him.
David D
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Post by camtech on Aug 4, 2017 21:31:31 GMT 12
Spot on David - my copy has the same notes on the back.
The earlier photo of the ground staff shows Bill Dini - I used to work for Bill when he owned the Antigua Boatsheds. He was a bit of a character, building fibreglass canoes upstairs at the sheds, along with his collection of gramaphones.
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