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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 14, 2017 10:30:06 GMT 12
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Post by Mustang51 on Dec 14, 2017 15:29:19 GMT 12
Nice and not very often seen on a machine like that.............however, still does not beat my P-47N "2 Big and Two heavy"/ "Short Snorter"........
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Dec 14, 2017 17:33:50 GMT 12
Pics?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 19, 2017 17:56:19 GMT 12
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Post by Mustang51 on Dec 20, 2017 7:19:56 GMT 12
That's the one Dave. The other side of the engine cowl sports a different lady with the name "Short Snorter". This is my fav P-47N of the 333rd Fighter Squadron, 316th Fighter Group. Its also unusual as the pilot, Lt John D.K Brunner painted this nose art himself. If you look between the lady's elbow and her butt you can actually see where Brunner signed the painting. Post war he went on to become a commercial artist. The name came from the fact that the P-47 was considered to be "Too Big and too heavy" to be a fighter. The N model was larger than the D with a different wing holding more fuel for the Pacific.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 20, 2017 9:29:16 GMT 12
I did not know that about the bigger wing. I don't really know much about the P-47 to be honest, very few Kiwis flew them so they have not been a big focus for me.
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Post by Mustang51 on Dec 20, 2017 10:06:20 GMT 12
Dave, N was way changed over the D model. Bigger 2,800hp R2800, carry more so heavier undercarriage, bigger turbocharger. Think from memory about 20700lbs Max Take Off whereas the P-51D was about 13,000 lbs. The VLR Pacific Mustangs may have been a bit more than the 13,000 due to the larger drop tanks but there is a huge difference between the two machines..........like nearly 3.5 tons........
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Dec 20, 2017 16:56:12 GMT 12
For such an imposing beast, loved by its pilots, and considerably capable it is surprising there aren't many around. I'd guess there are more Corsairs extant than Thunderbolts?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 20, 2017 17:31:48 GMT 12
Did the RAF get P-47N's? Or did they just operate the P-47D in Burma?
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Post by davidd on Dec 21, 2017 7:05:09 GMT 12
Dave,
RAF just received various sub-types of the P-47D (including high backs and low backs) for the squadrons in Burma (and I think some Thunderbolts served in an RAF OTU in Egypt too, or have I got that wrong?) Awaiting further suggestions!
David D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 21, 2017 7:31:12 GMT 12
Thanks David.
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Post by Mustang51 on Dec 21, 2017 14:54:15 GMT 12
SEAC major user and they were at OTU in Egypt. "Wack" Whiteman told me of a Thunderbolt he saw with his own eyes being fitted with a Russian engine in Egypt and a conversion being made for crop spraying. "Wack" flew the record breaking Mustang between Oz and NZ and said that somewhere he had a pic of the Thunderbolt being modified. Unfortunately he passed away before the pic was found and his family are reputed to have thrown away all his memorabilia
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Post by davidd on Dec 23, 2017 13:06:02 GMT 12
Yes, the RAF unit in Egypt was 70 OTU, probably had a goodly number of aircraft, 60 plus maybe? Probably also a few Harvards.
David D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 25, 2019 0:24:41 GMT 12
Here's an earlier C-54 Skymaster at Whenuapai  LARGEST LANDPLANE EVER TO COME TO NEW ZEALAND: A Douglas C-54 of the United States Army Air Transport Command arrived at a local Royal New Zealand Air Force station yesterday. Left: The tall, single fin and rudder of the aircraft, the top of which is about 30 feet above the ground. Upper right: A C-54, known as a Skymaster, in flight. Lower right: The massive body of the aircraft, showing the double wheels of the undercarriage. NEW ZEALAND HERALD, VOLUME 80, ISSUE 24682, 7 SEPTEMBER 1943 paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19430907.2.49 |
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Post by planecrazy on Jan 25, 2019 10:58:08 GMT 12
 Pretty sure these two where Egyptian theatre jobs, happy to be shot down if I'm wrong and found them on the net so may not be factual?! |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 25, 2019 12:33:31 GMT 12
That looks to be two different interpretations of the same P-47D?
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Post by davidd on Jan 26, 2019 12:34:55 GMT 12
I agree with Dave, although the lower rendition has a distinctly undernourished looking propeller hub (appears to be intended as a Curtiss Electric - however the upper view has a much more convincing example of this type) than a HS Hydromatic, which equipped a lot of the later P-47s.
Dave D
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Post by Mustang51 on Jan 30, 2019 15:15:39 GMT 12
Ham Std needs a heavier dome. Upper better reps Curtiss Electric. Nice to see a SEAC P-47 on the circuit some day..... dreams on......
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 30, 2019 16:05:30 GMT 12
There used to be a P-47D in SEAC colours on the UK warbird scene. It also appeared in It Ain't Half Hot Mum. Trying to recall, it may have belong to Doug Arnold?
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Post by planecrazy on Jan 30, 2019 19:13:41 GMT 12
Here's the static at Hendon.  |
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