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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 24, 2018 14:27:21 GMT 12
NOOOOO !!! You are all overlooking something VERY important guys... The newly restored but not yet finished HDML Kuparu, HDML Paea and if we get HDML Haku back in service from the AKL Harbourmaster we could have ( wait for it) THREE 75 year old wooden patrol boats to do the job... If we really scrape the barrel there are a few more that could be re commissioned... Who's keen to help But can Admirals hold cocktail parties on the patrol boats? That's the main function of the frigates, isn't it?
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Post by TS on Aug 24, 2018 16:53:34 GMT 12
NOOOOO !!! You are all overlooking something VERY important guys... The newly restored but not yet finished HDML Kuparu, HDML Paea and if we get HDML Haku back in service from the AKL Harbourmaster we could have ( wait for it) THREE 75 year old wooden patrol boats to do the job... If we really scrape the barrel there are a few more that could be re commissioned... Who's keen to help But can Admirals hold cocktail parties on the patrol boats? That's the main function of the frigates, isn't it? Absolutely Dave we will all raft up together and move from one to the other once we have drunk the drinks cabinet dry, easy as...
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Post by oj on Aug 24, 2018 21:48:26 GMT 12
Let us not forget that those module containers were constructed and wired up by PAC in Hamilton in the early 1990's by many of the same electrical staff that did the A4K Project Kahu wiring. Then they went on to do all the Jindivik wiring for the UK MOD.
Quite sad really that the skill capability and experience was dispersed and lost when the new owners of PAC in 1995 elected to not persue further military contract manufacturing work.
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Post by pepe on Aug 25, 2018 21:07:18 GMT 12
NOOOOO !!! You are all overlooking something VERY important guys... The newly restored but not yet finished HDML Kuparu, HDML Paea and if we get HDML Haku back in service from the AKL Harbourmaster we could have ( wait for it) THREE 75 year old wooden patrol boats to do the job... If we really scrape the barrel there are a few more that could be re commissioned... Who's keen to help But can Admirals hold cocktail parties on the patrol boats? That's the main function of the frigates, isn't it? What is the point of a flight deck if not to host a good cocktail party? That is probably one of the reasons we still have frigates and those ornamental Skyhawks got the chop
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Post by phil on Aug 26, 2018 9:36:42 GMT 12
NOOOOO !!! You are all overlooking something VERY important guys... The newly restored but not yet finished HDML Kuparu, HDML Paea and if we get HDML Haku back in service from the AKL Harbourmaster we could have ( wait for it) THREE 75 year old wooden patrol boats to do the job... If we really scrape the barrel there are a few more that could be re commissioned... Who's keen to help But can Admirals hold cocktail parties on the patrol boats? That's the main function of the frigates, isn't it? Sometimes I think the only reason there is a Navy section on here at all is so that you can have an excuse to troll. We get it, you have no idea what the Navy actually does, so don't like it. You sound like Helen, claiming the ACF was never 'used'.
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Post by harvard1041 on Aug 26, 2018 10:51:52 GMT 12
Got to say surprised about the negative comments about the Frigate upgrades ...and Frigates generally. They are a vital and very useful component of Defence ..... and in every sense worth every single dollar put in to them - upgrades have challenges ! It's easy for us ex-RNZAF guys ( & gals ) to just assume Orions, or their replacement, look after the sea, but the Navy with their frigates do much of this work, are there in good weather & bad, and do these tasks well..... worth every darn cent... they are the combat element of the Navy.
Cheers Hvd1041
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 26, 2018 11:22:33 GMT 12
Sometimes I think the sailor types have zero sense of humour.
Apologies for the "trolling", i.e. having an opinion, I am put in my place.
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Post by TS on Aug 26, 2018 11:43:53 GMT 12
Sometimes I think the sailor types have zero sense of humour. Apologies for the "trolling", i.e. having an opinion, I am put in my place. I have to agree Dave. I was bloody gob smacked when I read that above. A Total lack of Humour.
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Post by 30sqnatc on Aug 26, 2018 17:44:38 GMT 12
Dave just used the wrong buzz word for that component of the frigate outputs. Its not a 'cocktail party' (although that is how it is achieved), its 'soft defence diplomacy'.
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Post by mcmaster on Aug 27, 2018 10:25:39 GMT 12
Will be interesting to see the nz mod frigates next to the aussie anzacs. They are going to look very different.
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Post by nighthawknz on Sept 12, 2018 18:18:34 GMT 12
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Post by nighthawknz on Sept 27, 2018 20:08:49 GMT 12
Steel work for the first of the new RNZN ANZAC Forward Masts is nearly complete. Heading off for blasting and painting. Australian Maritime Technologies is onsite supporting the modification of both RNZN ANZAC ships, as the platform system designer for the Frigate Systems Upgrade. Great to see our design work being realised. www.ausmarinetech.com.au/rnzn_fsu_mast/
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Post by mcmaster on Sept 28, 2018 17:57:19 GMT 12
Thanks for the update nighthawks. These days the lattice radar masts now have these heavier engineered structures. Assume there's more plumbing and a need for less vibration?
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Post by nighthawknz on Sept 28, 2018 20:58:39 GMT 12
Thanks for the update nighthawks. These days the lattice radar masts now have these heavier engineered structures. Assume there's more plumbing and a need for less vibration? The RNZN were worried about too much top heavyweight before the upgrades, and people were going on about not using the MK41 Vertical Launcher System for CAMM as it is a very heavy system but would probably been a better call to keep them (I am not sure) rather they are going with CAMMs own launching system which I believe is lighter and frees up some internal compartments... I wonder if this was one of the reasons with adding the all this extra weight in the foremast.
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Post by nighthawknz on Jan 17, 2019 16:17:35 GMT 12
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Post by richard1098 on Jan 18, 2019 18:44:49 GMT 12
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Post by nighthawknz on Feb 19, 2019 16:00:36 GMT 12
Te Kaha must be getting close to being finished; Fair winds and following seas to HMNZS Te Mana who departed Devonport Naval Base this morning. She’ll head north to Hawaii before proceeding to Esquimalt, Canada to commence her Frigate Systems Upgrade (FSU). and it appears they have already taken the AN/SPS-49(V)8 ANZ, and CIWIS Phalanx off already in preparations...
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Post by skyhawkdon on Feb 19, 2019 16:28:10 GMT 12
So we are now officially Frigate-less! Hope a war doesn't break out in the meantime ;+)
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 19, 2019 16:48:48 GMT 12
Ha, like they would have been any use in a war...
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Post by nighthawknz on Feb 19, 2019 17:02:21 GMT 12
So we are now officially Frigate-less! Hope a war doesn't break out in the meantime ;+) Basically... yes we are frigateless if that is a word...
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