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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 21, 2019 20:11:30 GMT 12
There are only three coloured photos of RNZAF Curtiss P-40's that I am aware of, as seen below. They are all in the Pacific, and I assume that they are probably from US Navy or some other US sources as the RNZAF does not seem to have ever used coloured film stock in the 1940's. What I'd like to now is: - Who took the photos? - Were they all taken at the same time by the same photographer? - Are the original negatives held in a photo archive anywhere? If so, where? (It's be nice to get fresh scans as these published versions are pretty poor quality) - Does anyone know if more official coloured photos were taken of the RNZAF P-40's or their Corsairs, Hudsons, Venturas, etc, in the Pacific? And which archives might they be in?    |
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Post by tbf25o4 on Jun 22, 2019 10:00:09 GMT 12
Dave, I'm pretty sure they were all taken at Torokina, probably late 1943 looking at the markings on the P40 in the last pic.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 22, 2019 10:03:40 GMT 12
Quite probably, the third one was certainly Torokina. I'd love to now if there were ore shots taken on the roll.
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Post by horicle on Jun 22, 2019 12:45:10 GMT 12
Looking at the third photo do you think there is a Camo pattern of brown and green (OD)? Not what I was expecting.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 22, 2019 15:38:38 GMT 12
No it is simply OD with the white markings.  |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Jun 22, 2019 16:52:40 GMT 12
I'd love to get an enlarged high definition print off the negative of that take-off scene
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 22, 2019 20:58:32 GMT 12
Me too, for all of them.
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Post by chinapilot on Jun 22, 2019 22:30:04 GMT 12
Can I suggest that they were taken around March 1944?
The P-39s in the background were based there from that date.
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Post by madmax on Jun 22, 2019 23:32:21 GMT 12
Hi Dave, Without trying to appear too pedantic I think these are colour photos and not coloured photos.
Prior to colour photography becoming commonplace photos were often hand-coloured and referred to as coloured photos as opposed to colour photos taken using colour film
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 23, 2019 0:04:05 GMT 12
I'm pretty certain these are not hand-coloured, they are just poor prints poorly scanned.
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Post by madmax on Jun 23, 2019 0:09:28 GMT 12
Yes, that exactly my point, and that is why i believe they should be referred to as colour photos, not coloured photos
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Post by Brenton on Jun 23, 2019 1:25:41 GMT 12
There seems to be a strange bump just in front of the radio mast ?
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Post by davidd on Jun 23, 2019 12:06:01 GMT 12
Brenton,
You will have to elaborate on your cryptic comment - please! I presume you are talking about AIRCRAFT radio masts, but I could be wrong. Or are you meaning the strange object in the MIDDLE photograph (of the original three) which looks like a wobbly skyrocket about to take off, directly in line with (but further away than), the aircraft's windscreen?
David D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 23, 2019 13:00:18 GMT 12
Yes, that exactly my point, and that is why i believe they should be referred to as colour photos, not coloured photos Oh I see what you are saying. Yes, that is pedantic. |
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Post by Brenton on Jun 23, 2019 14:58:10 GMT 12
Sorry David it's the 3rd photo with the P40 taking off.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 23, 2019 17:04:29 GMT 12
I see what Brent means. I have blown it up and ringed the bump   |
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Post by steveh on Jun 23, 2019 20:23:32 GMT 12
Streamlined DF loop?
Steve.
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Post by hardyakka on Jun 24, 2019 10:08:44 GMT 12
I see what Brent means. I have blown it up and ringed the bump If you look at the profile photo from the same group, ...there does not appear to be anything much more structural than plexiglass forward of the radio antenna for anything to be attached. Is the "bump" actually on the top of the fuselage or is it forward of the starboard wing? The angle makes it hard to tell. Is it the pilot chucking away an empty coconut that he took with him for a pre-takeoff snack...?  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 24, 2019 10:17:26 GMT 12
It could just as easily be something like a mark on the PSP plating of the runway, or a speck on the negative or the print that this was scanned from.
It's hard to tell if the aircraft taking off is a P-40N-5 as seen in that side on shot with the rear glazing, or is it a P-40M with the earlier canopy arrangement?
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Post by Brenton on Jun 24, 2019 15:58:43 GMT 12
If you look at the radio mast and then the white band ahead of it you then get what appears to be reflection of a canopy. It seems square not rounded and even indicates the triangular internal shape. So my money would be on it been an N.
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