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Post by alanw on Jul 8, 2019 15:07:36 GMT 12
Hi All, Some questions for our Technical Experts on our A4Ks circa early 1980's (before Kahu Upgrades) The A4K's arrived with the wiring/Plumbing for the Bull Pup missile, in 1982, did they still carry them/use them? In this Link borrowed from Wikipedia - nice shot of NZ6206, is it me or have the Greens changed from the original SEA scheme the A4K's arrived in 1970? upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/A-4K_with_75_Sqn_RNZAF_members_1982.JPEGIf so, what Greens were they (I would presume locally sourced paint?) Edit - Where the Wheel wells/Gear doors, still Insignia White at this time? Thanks for any/all help Regards Alan
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Post by mumbles on Jul 8, 2019 15:57:25 GMT 12
Hi All, Some questions for our Technical Experts on our A4Ks circa early 1980's (before Kahu Upgrades) The A4K's arrived with the wiring/Plumbing for the Bull Pup missile, in 1982, did they still carry them/use them? In this Link borrowed from Wikipedia - nice shot of NZ6206, is it me or have the Greens changed from the original SEA scheme the A4K's arrived in 1970? upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/A-4K_with_75_Sqn_RNZAF_members_1982.JPEGIf so, what Greens were they (I would presume locally sourced paint?) Edit - Where the Wheel wells/Gear doors, still Insignia White at this time? Thanks for any/all help Regards Alan The Bullpup was never purchased/used by the RNZAF to my knowledge. There is an apparent change in the greens and general standard of the paint finish from the factory to those in later service, although this may be an artifact from the colour film in use at the time. I'm not sure which is non-standard, but the latter colours match TO.1.1.4 (standard USAF SEA scheme) to my eye. From the factory one of the greens appears more olive-drab in tone. Gear bays were never anything but white as far as I know. The back of the main-gear bay was covered in a sealant which was a yellow/brown colour though.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Jul 8, 2019 16:52:33 GMT 12
Correct, we never had Bullpups, Shrikes or Walleyes even though the aircraft as delivered were wired for them. Would make a good "whatif" model though.
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Post by alanw on Jul 8, 2019 18:46:05 GMT 12
Hi Gents Thank you ever so much for that information - I did a search and found a photo on Phillip Treweek's Kiwi Aircraft images, of the sealant on the rear gear wall www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/pages/01ohkc37.htmlA couple of other questions if I may? If the A4K was loaded for say Ground Attack (as in a an Exercise), load could be center-line MER with Mk 82's, Wing tanks inner pylons, anything carried on the outer wing pylons? (Too early for AIM 9L's) If flying "Clean" except Wing tanks, pylons on or off center line and outer wings? I'm staring a 1/32 Build, so want to build as good a representation as I can Thanks again Alan
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Post by saratoga on Jul 8, 2019 21:09:32 GMT 12
Sidewinder unlikely for ground attack, though that period they could fly AIM-9G. Outer pylons could have rockets, that period either 5" Zuni(Pod of 4) or 2.75"FFAR(pod of 6(maybe 7?) or 18). Other option may be 5" flare(similar to Zuni pod). Possibly practice(blue) bombs also, MK106 high drag or MK76 low drag. Pylons on always.
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Post by Calum on Jul 9, 2019 15:00:15 GMT 12
More Mk 82's on the stns 1 and 5. That's what I did more images here if interested
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Jul 9, 2019 16:08:15 GMT 12
That's a cracker display!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 9, 2019 16:09:07 GMT 12
That model base is making me airsick Great model Calum!!
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Post by skyhawkdon on Jul 9, 2019 16:51:51 GMT 12
The "sealant" on the front spar was a corrosion preventative compound (CPC) and was only applied post kahu. For the era you are looking at doing it wasn't there. A Sidewinder would usually be carried on one of the outboard stations for self defence but if there was no air threat then more air to ground weapons (bombs or rockets). The A-4 looks damn good (IMHO) without drop tanks and armed to the teeth. If you had access to a tanker or range to the target wasn't an issue that would be how you would go to war - more weapons and less drop tanks!
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Post by alanw on Jul 9, 2019 20:18:00 GMT 12
Hi Gents,
As usual this Forum and members are a Goldmine full of awesome information - Thank you so much!!!
Thanks and regards
Alan
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