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Post by johnnyfalcon on Jul 24, 2019 18:59:28 GMT 12
Kiwi connections: Who's there and what's there? (PZ474?)
I noted at least one interloper from the Long White Cloud, check out the background, a very long way from home...
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Post by baz62 on Jul 27, 2019 16:21:31 GMT 12
I noted at least one interloper from the Long White Cloud, check out the background, a very long way from home... Wish it was this Baz and not the aeroplane!
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Post by ErrolC on Aug 3, 2019 8:24:09 GMT 12
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Post by planecrazy on Aug 3, 2019 16:36:02 GMT 12
Sorry for what may seem a silly question so at Oskosh you can just wander around the place and be present when T28s start up or do you have to have a special pass to be out and about. So surprised it is so relaxed being America with all the litigation, don't get me wrong, not complaining I think that it's great for aviation fans!
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Post by Brett on Aug 3, 2019 18:45:54 GMT 12
The aircraft that attend are parked all over the airport grounds, filling most of the available flat ground. Once inside the airport boundary you can wander pretty much anywhere, except near the active runways and taxiways. Attendees can wander around and under nearly every aeroplane there. Exceptions are some aircraft that the owners put their own tape and barriers around (very rare), and current military aircraft which usually have military guards.
When the Warbirds portion of the airshow starts, marshalls chivvy all of the pedestrians out of the relevant section of the aircraft parking (they are all parked in the same area) so that the display aircraft can start up and move to the taxiway. The area remains 'out of bounds' until they return and are parked up again, when visitors are permitted access again.
In the general aircraft parking areas individual aeroplanes can arrive and depart at any time, so marshalls in ATVs and on scooters escort every taxiing aeroplane from the active area to their individual parking spot, making sure pedestrians are aware of the moving aircraft and keeping them well out of the way.
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Post by Bruce on Aug 3, 2019 22:12:12 GMT 12
They don't even have barriers on the crowdline! there is a line of paint, which absolutely no-one puts so much as a toe across. If you sit with your foot over the line, the people around you in the crowd will point this out to you. Theres this unspoken enforcement of the principle. Likewise, you never see litter or FOD anywhere. Its a remarkable event!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 3, 2019 22:35:06 GMT 12
Fantastic. Like airshows should be. Amazing how hey ca get half a million people through the gate and have no issues. It shows what overkill other airshows go to.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 3, 2019 22:59:55 GMT 12
The secret lies. of course, in the fact that they do it every single year, year after year. So they know what works and what doesn't, and most of the guys know what they did last year.
Back in NZ we do it once, and then (like Ohakea) when it is a f*ck-up say "Well, that's it. We're not doing that again!"
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Post by Calum on Aug 5, 2019 15:12:17 GMT 12
They don't even have barriers on the crowdline! there is a line of paint, which absolutely no-one puts so much as a toe across. If you sit with your foot over the line, the people around you in the crowd will point this out to you. Theres this unspoken enforcement of the principle. Likewise, you never see litter or FOD anywhere. Its a remarkable event! I went in 2017 they had guys patrolling the line on little bikes and golf carts, they told you off . It's fantastic to got an air airshow and not be roped off from the aircraft. The only thing roped off was the F-22 and F-35. Everything else you could touch. People were sheltering from the sun up inside the wheel well s and bomb bay of the B-52 and B-1 At warbird alley Mustangs and Skyraiders etc would start up and taxi through the crowd which (funnily enough) just got out of the way. And the lack of litter for an event with nearly 100,000 attending on the final day is amazing... it really attracts a crowd that is knowledgeable with respect to aviation and how to act around aircraft My Oshkosh Photos are here
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