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Post by hildaren on Apr 12, 2021 9:33:47 GMT 12
Hi all
I am looking for info on the model of these (M4A2?). Were they nz owned or borrowed from the US forces in nz?
Hildaren
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Post by 30sqnatc on Apr 12, 2021 19:13:18 GMT 12
I have never heard of these vehicles before. What is your info source?
I'm almost certain NZ Army has ever owned Sherman. The logistics of just having two would be horrendous. Definitely not in the NZ number list although admit it does have gaps.
Even the 'Sherman' in the museum now is actually a Grizlly.
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Post by hildaren on Apr 12, 2021 21:50:57 GMT 12
hi
yes like you, I have never heard of the NZ army having Shermans that's why I wonder if they were borrowed from the u.s, it's from a provisional war establishment table for the N.Z.A.F.V school for October of 1943 at NZ archives reference no AD67 16
Hildaren
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 12, 2021 22:27:31 GMT 12
As far as I have heard the Army in NZ had Valentines and Stuarts, and they did not get into Shermans till they reached Egypt, or in some cases Italy.
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Post by 30sqnatc on Apr 13, 2021 5:15:08 GMT 12
As far as I have heard the Army in NZ had Valentines and Stuarts, and they did not get into Shermans till they reached Egypt, or in some cases Italy. Matilda also for a brief period until we sold to Australia |
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Post by 30sqnatc on Apr 13, 2021 5:27:27 GMT 12
hi yes like you, I have never heard of the NZ army having Shermans that's why I wonder if they were borrowed from the u.s, it's from a provisional war establishment table for the N.Z.A.F.V school for October of 1943 at NZ archives reference no AD67 16 Hildaren Not quite the response I was expecting. I wondered if you had come across one of the forestry Skyline Hauly that were mounted on former Sherman/Grizley chassis. |
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Post by hildaren on Apr 13, 2021 9:47:21 GMT 12
Mind you war establishment tables are mostly theory so maybe they never got them hard to know. Vehicle Establishment
Tanks number
M3 7
M3A1 7
Valentine Mk V 12
Matilda 1
Sherman 2
Valentine Bridge layer 1
Scout cars
White 1
Daimler MK II 1
Slave 1
Carriers
L.P2 5
Transporters
20ton 6x4 & Semi-Trailers 3
Carrier Flint 2
Trucks
3ton 6x4 GS 6
Mack 3
Workshop 6x4 (Leyland) 1 or 2
Breakdown 6x4 (Homes) 1
30cwt 4x4 GS 3
15cwt 4x2 water 6
15cwt 4x2 gs 5
Cars
4x4 jeeps 2
2seat 2
Motorcycles
Solo 2
hildaren
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Post by 30sqnatc on Apr 13, 2021 22:58:24 GMT 12
Some interesting vehicles. Only the Shermans appear to be out of the ordinary although not certain what a 'Carrier Flint' is.
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